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The best filmic example of the realist/resemblance debate in the cinema can
be found in the Marx Bros. (of course) DUCK SOUP.  When, at one point Rufus
T. Firefly/Groucho asks Harpo, "Who are you," Harpo "respoonds" by rolling
up his sleeve to reveal a tattoo/picture of himself.
 
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>>Consider:  What are the implications of people saying "This is my
>>mother" when displaying a snapshot of a woman?  Clearly the small piece
>>of paper is not literally "mother."  But for the purposes at hand
>>one can elide the middle words in the sentence "This is a picture of
>>my mother."
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>>Cal Pryluck, Radio-Television-Film, Temple University, Philadelphia
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>Not that this doesn't remain a good question, but haven't the implications
>of this elision been discussed at length for years, by Bazin, Sontag,
>Barthes, and more recently John Tagg, Joel Snyder, and Norman Bryson?  This
>is the question at the heart of every realist/resemblance debate in
>photography criticism.
 
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