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RUBEN GARCIA-LOUREDA DIAZ <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:35:40 +0200
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I am not myself defending US news criteria, and I am very in agreement with
many of the points made clear by Mark, but US news does explain what
Methodology used to rank the different universities. In the same web page
that you have the ranking,  you will find a link to "Methodology".

I also have to say thay I am  alumnus of Syracuse University, which I think
should be considered higher in the ranking, so I do not defending 100% US
news criteria, but I guess is a ranking that should be considered, maybe
with a little of salt.


At 01:26 18/08/99 +0200, Mark Langer wrote:
>On Sun, 15 Aug 1999, RUBEN GARCIA-LOUREDA DIAZ wrote:
>> HI,
>> the Magazine "US NEWS" (
>> publishes the following ranking of Film Universities. I hope this helps.
>> ,-)
>Lists of this sort should be approached with extreme caution.  Can a
>ranking difference based on the distinction between a 4.5 and a 4.4 be
>taken seriously?  Upon what is the ranking of a school's reputation based?
>And does reputation depend on present quality, or something else?  What
>determines quality? Who is being surveyed to determine the schools'
>reputations?  What kind of research have those surveyed done on the
>variety and quality of film programs?  How much does a school's reputation
>depend on film, and how much on other fine arts? Somehow, I find it hard
>to believe that U.S. News and World Report has a better idea of where the
>best film schools are than professionals in the field.  Perhaps it is
>time for a Screen-L poll on the top film schools? :-)
>I also find it absurd that one school would be rated better than another
>on an absolute score.  Most of us know that different schools have
>different strengths or specializations.  What a student might want
>from a particular school might differ in no small measure from the
>school's actual virtues.  For example, while Columbia University might
>rank high in terms of certain areas within filmmaking, a student who is
>interested in scholarship would not be particularly well served there.
>(I'm picking Columbia because I am an alumnus, and don't want to be flamed
>for bias.) Yet many of the top schools for more academic pursuits
>(Pittsburgh, Iowa, etc.) don't even make the list.
>In terms of production, one also has to question the selection criteria.
>To take one example, the top North American school for studying animation
>production doesn't even make this list, and several high ranked American
>animation programs are nowhere to be found here.  Similarly, if a student
>is interested in new media, documentary, etc., just picking from the top
>of the list might not be the smartest strategy.  But does U.S. News and
>World Report inform the consumer of this?  I somehow doubt it.
>Mark Langer
>>   Search this section or the entire site.
>> Film - Master of Fine Arts (1997)
>> Top Schools | Methodology | FAQ | Back to the Arts
>> Rank/School Average reputation score (5 = highest)
>> 1. New York University  4.5
>> 1. University of Southern California  4.5
>> 3. University of California–Los Angeles  4.4
>> 4. American Film Institute (CA) 4.1
>> 5. California Institute of the Arts  4.0
>> 6. Columbia University (NY) 3.7
>> 7. School of the Art Institute of Chicago  3.6
>> 7. University of Texas–Austin  3.6
>> 9. Florida State University  3.5
>> 9. Northwestern University (IL) 3.5
>> 9. Temple University (PA) 3.5
>> 12. Rochester Institute of Technology (NY) 3.3
>> 12. San Francisco Art Institute 3.3
>> 12. University of California–San Diego  3.3
>> 15. San Francisco State University 3.1
>> 15. University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee 3.1
>> 17. Ohio University 3.0
>> 17. Southern Illinois University–Carbondale 3.0
>> 17. Syracuse University (NY) 3.0
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>> At 16:58 12/08/99 +0200, Belandean ----- wrote:
>> >I am very interested in this line of discussion, but I would like to know
>> >more about the programs available for film theory and/or history. I am
>> >currently a graduate student (in English, but I have discovered film and am
>> >concentrating my study in film theory) and I am seriously considering
>> >continuing on to a doctoral program. I love film and would love to spend my
>> >life teaching film theory. But, as everyone knows, the job market for those
>> >with an English/Literature degree is not the best. I am curious about the
>> >opinions of those on the list who are teaching film-- is it worth the effort
>> >to continue on?
>> >D. Olson
>> >Central Washington Univ.
>> >
>> Ruben Garcia-Loureda Diaz
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