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Drew Perry <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:47:43 +1000
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re: understanding the plot.

Any of these films, and others mentioned in this discussion (Last Year at
Marienbad e.g.) are only "incomprehensible" from a simplistic expectation of
concrete linear narrative conventions. Viewed as a dramatisation of
Robbe-Grillet's narrative theory, Marienbad, for example is totally coherent
and internally consistent. It just isn't a "story" in the usual sense. It
visualises something close to a unfolding thought process.
The Matrix is frequently labelled "incomprehensible" - by reviewers. I've
never heard an academic refer to it as such. There are a quite a few
philosophy sites discussing it - because it is so philosophically
consistent, so intellectually solid.
And Seven ... what exactly can't be understood in this straightforward
traditional Hollywood narrative structure?

No ... really ...

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From: "jane mills" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 5:21 PM
Subject: Understanding the plot

Understanding the plot.

Apologies for cross-listing

Un chien Andalou, The Big Sleep, Seven, The Usual Suspects, The Matrix,
Velvet Goldmine, Gummo, Mulholland Drive  all films that have incoherent
or, to some, incomprehensible plots and storylines. (For some reason I am
always completely baffled by films about counter espionage.) Does it matter?
Do we need to understand the plot of a movie to enjoy it? Could you let me
know more titles of incomprehensible films, any academic articles on the
subject , and your views on the subject?

Jane Mills
Honorary Associate, The University of Sydney;
Senior Research Associate, Australian Film,Television & Radio School
27 Dudley Street, Bondi, 2026
Tel: 9300 8836
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