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Scott Andrew Hutchins <[log in to unmask]>
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I've been quite harsh about Pretty Woman ever since I saw it, but few people understand or accept my problems with it.  I do believe David Williamson made fun of it in one of his plays, and even had a line that was something to the effect of "Hollywood thinks it's cute."  It's probably Money & Friends, but I'm not certain.

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"Those who had been successful adapted themselves to the world around them, had bent their greater mental powers into the pattern of acceptable action.  And this dulled their usefulness, limited their capacity, hedged their ability with restrictions set up to fit less extraordinary people."  -- Clifford D. Simak, "Census" (1944)

---- Lou Thompson <[log in to unmask]> wrote: 
> Thanks to all of your for your thoughtful responses.  I hope to read more!
> What I have been thinking about is how few women are film critics, something 
> I've always wondered (and it was tough to break into film scholarship as a 
> woman too, in my experience), but recently there have been some films that 
> got pretty universal critical acclaim but that I found appalling because of 
> their not-so-subtle sexism. I have pretty much determined that those films 
> were liked because they are being reviewed by men who don't see anything 
> wrong with sexism (and I'm not saying all men are like that, just most male 
> film critics that I've read)--in fact, they don't even notice it.
> For example, take the film "Waitress."  I should warn you that spoilers 
> follow.
> I had heard great things--nothing but great things, in fact, about this 
> film.  When I saw it my first reaction was one of disappointment, mostly for 
> the stereotyping of Southern characters and also that the so-called 
> "cleverness" of the whole pie recipe story was kind of a joke--none of these 
> recipes were original, they were just given "cute" names.
> But as I got further into the film I was really disturbed by the fact that 
> all the women were subservient to men, that the protagonist was having an 
> affair that was three times inappropriate (she was married, he was married, 
> and he was her doctor!), and she is  saved only by a lecherous old rich guy 
> who dies at a convenient time.  And the doctor was rejecting his perfectly 
> lovely, pleasant, physician wife in favor of a waitress who was in an 
> abusive relationship but fed him pie.
> There have been quite a few films like that lately.  I'll admit that even my 
> female students like these films, just as they don't see the problems I have 
> with "Pretty Woman" or "Love, Actually" (again for my feminist ideology), 
> but they're young and unschooled, and so I wish critics would look a little 
> more closely at the ideological assumptions that these films perpetuate, 
> since most filmgoers obviously do not.
> If we had more educated women reviewing films, I think that might change.
> Not that I want to do it, though.
> Lou
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Holiday, Frederick N." <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 11:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [SCREEN-L] film critics
> >I don't really have a list if the best, but I know who the absolute worst 
> >is:  Peter Travers of ROLLING STONE, without a doubt.
> >
> > Fred A. Holliday II
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Film and TV Studies Discussion List [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf 
> > Of Lou Thompson [[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:12 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: [SCREEN-L] film critics
> >
> > The announcement today that "Ebert and Roeper" were going off the air came 
> > at one of those serendipitous times for me, as I've been thinking a lot 
> > about film critics--who they are, where they come from, how (or if) they 
> > are trained or schooled.
> >
> > I was wondering if those of you on the list would be interested in sharing 
> > your list of the top film critics/reviewers (not scholars), past and 
> > present.
> > __________________________
> >
> > Lou Ann Thompson, Ph.D,
> > Professor of English
> > Texas Woman's University
> > _____________________________
> >
> > "One Law for the Lion and the Ox is Oppression."--William Blake
> > _____________________________
> >
> > "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do 
> > nothing."--Attributed to
> > Edmund Burke
> > _____________________________
> >
> > "It could be worse.  I could be Sting."--Ozzy Osbourne
> > _____________________________
> >
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