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Not to create a bone of contention, but personally I find myself agreeing with Gloria. I don't mind having conversations with undergrads to help spark ideas, but I never was one to "hang out" with them, even electronically. The young man may not have any dubious intentions, but he really should do his own homework.
 
I recall a similar situation some years ago, in which a student sent forth a fake call for papers on British SciFi to a certain listserv, and then used the abstracts to help her defend her orals. There never was a panel. 
 
As for my two cents, there was some criticism over auteur Hitchcock's treatment of actress Kim Novak after her "illicit" romance with Sammy Davis, Jr. became public. Despite being considered the consummate pro, and having worked with Novak in Vertigo (1958), Hitchcock banned her from his next project, From Amongst the Dead. 
 
Now then Peter - you find the citation!



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From: Film and TV Studies Discussion List [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Eleni P. [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 9:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [SCREEN-L] a note regarding the request on negative criticism on alfred hitchcock as an auteur

I find nothing wrong with the student's  eagerness to  reach out to this
list.  We (faculty)  regularly  chat with our students - yes-undergraduates!
- and share information.  In fact, we think rather highly of them for
hanging out with us.



Eleni

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 4:06 PM, godard <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>    does anybody else on this list find this undergraduate request
> troubling?  with a simple click of a key, this kid gained access to the
> research that his professor expected peter to do himself.  i believe that
> encouraging this kind of behavior fosters intellectual laziness.  instead
> of
> finding kapsis's book *at the library* and read it, now a student can just
> e-mail kapsis himself and hit him up for ideas.  or even access bentley's
> yet unpublished work -- and therefore unprotected by copyright.
>    another example of how professors are turning into their customers'
> (formerly known as students) servants.  what's next?
>
>   gloria monti
>
> gloria monti, ph.d.
> assistant professor
> radio-TV-film
> CSUF, fullerton, CA
> [log in to unmask]
>
> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Ian Brookes
> <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
> > ---------------------- Information from the mail header
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> > Sender:       Film and TV Studies Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>
> > Poster:       Ian Brookes <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject:      Re: Negative criticism on Alfred Hitchcock as an auteur
> >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Another good place to look is Robert E Kapsis's Hitchcock: The Making of
> a
> > Reputation. This is full of interesting instances of the shifts in
> > Hitchcock's critical reputation. RK talks about a film like Torn Curtain,
> > for example, which was quite poorly reviewed at the time because Hitch's
> > reputation as a "master" of the espionage thriller (The Man Who Knew Too
> > Much, The 39 Steps, North by North-West, etc) had become superseded with
> the
> > advent of James Bond since 1960 and its impact on the genre. To many
> > critics, Torn Curtain appeared outmoded in comparison. - Ian Brookes
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Film and TV Studies Discussion List [[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf
> > Of George Robinson [[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 2:54 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [SCREEN-L] Negative criticism on Alfred Hitchcock as an
> auteur
> >
> > If you can find Raymond Durgnat's Hitchcock book, he has some
> > interesting and quirky things to say about the director, stuff that
> > would certainly leaven your thesis.
> >
> > George Robinson
> >
> > --
> > Man is the only [creature] that kills for fun;
> > he is the only one that kills in malice, the only
> > one that kills for revenge [. . .] He is the only
> > creature that has a nasty mind.
> >
> >                                -- Mark Twain
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/30/2010 10:23 PM, Peter Longworth wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I'm an undergraduate student studying Cultural and Media Studies at
> > > the University of Newcastle, Australia. The reason I am writing is I
> > > have a major essay on Alfred Hitchcock as an auteur, and to make my
> > > essay more interesting I'd like to locate articles / books which
> > > criticise Hitchcock somewhat negatively. I've been directed to
> > > criticism from feminist scholars, but was wondering where else I
> > > should be looking, and if anyone could please recommend any articles
> > > where I may concentrate my study.
> > >
> > > Apart from the feminist angle, I know of a couple of articles written
> > > by Andrew Sarris who comments on Hitchcock's films not being taken
> > > seriously in the 1960s because they weren't considered serious films
> > > like what the European directors were making such as Antonioni and
> > > Bergmann.
> > >
> > > Other place I could go with my essay is for Hitchcock's use of
> > > violence in Frenzy - I actually find the strangle scenes today pretty
> > > disturbing, and I understand critical reception to the film's use of
> > > violence was mixed. I think Rope might have been criticised also from
> > > a moralistic point of view. There is also Hitchcock's attack on
> > > religion in his films, such as the Catholic church, in how he
> > > represents / shows nuns in Vertigo, which is the key film i'll be
> > > discussing in my paper.
> > >
> > > I hope someone might be able to recommend me to resources articles
> > > giving a negative criticism, or mixed criticism of Hitchcock, because
> > > mostly everyone says positive things about his films. I seek to make
> > > my essay a mixture of positive and negative criticisms.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Peter
> >
> >
>
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