He did do the research himself.  He culled out the experts, and he  
sought their advice.  How is that anything other?

Whether the expert opinions are encased in bound, printed pages or in  
active posts on a scholarly film discussion list online is, to my
mind, irrelevant.

It's not lazy to take seek out and make the best of what's available.   
It would be foolish to do otherwise.

Shari



On Oct 31, 2010, at 4:06 PM, godard wrote:

>    does anybody else on this list find this undergraduate request
> troubling?  with a simple click of a key, this kid gained access to  
> the
> research that his professor expected peter to do himself.  i believe  
> that
> encouraging this kind of behavior fosters intellectual laziness.   
> instead of
> finding kapsis's book *at the library* and read it, now a student  
> can just
> e-mail kapsis himself and hit him up for ideas.  or even access  
> bentley's
> yet unpublished work -- and therefore unprotected by copyright.
>    another example of how professors are turning into their customers'
> (formerly known as students) servants.  what's next?
>
>   gloria monti
>
> gloria monti, ph.d.
> assistant professor
> radio-TV-film
> CSUF, fullerton, CA
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> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Ian Brookes
> <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
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>> Poster:       Ian Brookes <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject:      Re: Negative criticism on Alfred Hitchcock as an auteur
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>>
>> Another good place to look is Robert E Kapsis's Hitchcock: The  
>> Making of a
>> Reputation. This is full of interesting instances of the shifts in
>> Hitchcock's critical reputation. RK talks about a film like Torn  
>> Curtain,
>> for example, which was quite poorly reviewed at the time because  
>> Hitch's
>> reputation as a "master" of the espionage thriller (The Man Who  
>> Knew Too
>> Much, The 39 Steps, North by North-West, etc) had become superseded  
>> with the
>> advent of James Bond since 1960 and its impact on the genre. To many
>> critics, Torn Curtain appeared outmoded in comparison. - Ian Brookes
>>
>> ________________________________________
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>> Behalf
>> Of George Robinson [[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 2:54 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [SCREEN-L] Negative criticism on Alfred Hitchcock as  
>> an auteur
>>
>> If you can find Raymond Durgnat's Hitchcock book, he has some
>> interesting and quirky things to say about the director, stuff that
>> would certainly leaven your thesis.
>>
>> George Robinson
>>
>> --
>> Man is the only [creature] that kills for fun;
>> he is the only one that kills in malice, the only
>> one that kills for revenge [. . .] He is the only
>> creature that has a nasty mind.
>>
>>                               -- Mark Twain
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/30/2010 10:23 PM, Peter Longworth wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I'm an undergraduate student studying Cultural and Media Studies at
>>> the University of Newcastle, Australia. The reason I am writing is I
>>> have a major essay on Alfred Hitchcock as an auteur, and to make my
>>> essay more interesting I'd like to locate articles / books which
>>> criticise Hitchcock somewhat negatively. I've been directed to
>>> criticism from feminist scholars, but was wondering where else I
>>> should be looking, and if anyone could please recommend any articles
>>> where I may concentrate my study.
>>>
>>> Apart from the feminist angle, I know of a couple of articles  
>>> written
>>> by Andrew Sarris who comments on Hitchcock's films not being taken
>>> seriously in the 1960s because they weren't considered serious films
>>> like what the European directors were making such as Antonioni and
>>> Bergmann.
>>>
>>> Other place I could go with my essay is for Hitchcock's use of
>>> violence in Frenzy - I actually find the strangle scenes today  
>>> pretty
>>> disturbing, and I understand critical reception to the film's use of
>>> violence was mixed. I think Rope might have been criticised also  
>>> from
>>> a moralistic point of view. There is also Hitchcock's attack on
>>> religion in his films, such as the Catholic church, in how he
>>> represents / shows nuns in Vertigo, which is the key film i'll be
>>> discussing in my paper.
>>>
>>> I hope someone might be able to recommend me to resources articles
>>> giving a negative criticism, or mixed criticism of Hitchcock,  
>>> because
>>> mostly everyone says positive things about his films. I seek to make
>>> my essay a mixture of positive and negative criticisms.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Peter
>>
>>
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