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Jeremy Butler <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 13 Dec 1994 17:06:16 CST
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Author:  Tony Williams <[log in to unmask]>
Date:    12/13/94 12:27 PM
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From: Tony Williams
 Leone "lied." !!!! A very blunt statement and one needing consideration.
Certainly, the Kurosawa influence is there but what about others from Leone's
own cultural background. Chris Frayling's SPAGHETTI WESTERNS (1981)
stresses this point. Since there are comedic aspects in FISTFUL (as there
are in YOJIMBO) what about some relationship to a suggested Italian
tradition no matter how indirect?
  During a 1977 conference on Latin-American culture held at the University
of Exeter (England) after a screening of FISTFUL, Frayling commented on a then
recent BBC documentary on Leone which compared FISTFUL and YOJIMBO but editing
scenes together (excluding all the different camera angles and treatments) to
make them appear identical. Frayling criticized the BBC for re-editing the
works making FISTFUL  a copy of YOJIMBO. There are many differences in
editing style, culture, and genre between the two works, especially those
relating to the Italian tradition which need emphasis. Many critics would
accuse you of"cultural imperialism" in terms of the blunt, one-sentence
statement you made.
  This is supposed to be a network discussing and interrogating filmic issues
unlike the other "joke", trivia groups around. Further interrogation and more
critical analysis supporting your statment is needed, not high-school/freshman
knee-jerk reaction. Tony Williams.