Let's not forget Paul Verhoeven's THE FOURTH MAN (1979), made before he was corrupted by Hollywood's big budgets: see, for example, the fairly silly action action action flic TOTAL RECALL and the even sillier BASIC INSTINCT. Bunuel's DISCREET CHARM OF THE BOURGEOISIE (1973) [or just about anything else by Bunuel]. Istvan Szabo's MEPHISTO. David Mamet's OLEANNA (1995), or HOMOCIDE or HOUSE OF GAMES. David Lynch's BLUE VELVET (1986) or ERASERHEAD or [some episodes of] TWIN PEAKS (especially from among the first 9) or WILD AT HEART or (more recently) LOST HIGHWAY (1997). Georg Roy Hill's SLAUGHTERHOUSE FIVE (1972), a film which quite literally bent the mind of a friend of mine. David Cronenberg's VIDEODROME (1982), as has been mentioned, or DAED RINGERS (1988) or more recently CRASH. And of course, quintessentially, Kubrick's 2201: A SPACE ODYSSEY (1968), CLOCKWORK ORANGE (1972) and FULL METAL JACKET (1987). Anyway, this thread may be getting a little frayed, so that it for now. Cheers, Marty. ---- To sign off SCREEN-L, e-mail [log in to unmask] and put SIGNOFF SCREEN-L in the message. Problems? Contact [log in to unmask]