<snip> > Verhoeven's > sophomoric use of irony is so convoluted and overwhelming that once > again, Verhoeven's lack of subtility and sadistic tendencies will > no doubt be applauded as parody, since it boggles the mind to think > that Verhoeven could be as bad as his films indicate. I have to agree with Christian. When it was released, I was baffled by Robocop, wondering whether or not it was a clever but hateful joke on it's admiring audience, becoming what it pretended to parody. Since then I've realised he doesn't deserve so much credit. Brilliant marketing, bad films. kevin king [log in to unmask] http://www.radix.net/~xanadu ---- Online resources for film/TV studies may be found at ScreenSite http://www.tcf.ua.edu/screensite