my thanks to all who have responded so far to my requests for info on BREAKING THE WAVES. I believe the film is deliberately playing with kitsch conventions in aid of advancing Von Trier's discovery of grace. He's apparently a recent convert to Catholicism; one senses in interviews a reasonably wild, tormented past, and a current process of settling down. It's not unlikely that Jan is his avatar (have not been able to discover info about his Bess, family life, children, so forth). This is not so simplistic as it sounds, or so I hope to prove. Rafferty had a real skeptical postmodern jones about BTS; I suspect he cannot grasp the authenticity of the director's conversion and how this has been elaborated; using kitsch as a vehicle to transcend kitsch; much the way the conventional pieties of the village which Bess has embraced cannot contain the opening out of her deeper religious experience (and eventually Jan's). The citations of Dreyer and Fellini are honorrable, meaningful. I thoroughly concur with Mike Frank's acute remarks about the un-pornographic register of the sexual scenes. We're not looking at DeMille "sermons and tits" here. Scoffers would do well to take a second look. I gather no one out there had my experience of motion sickness from the combo of swish/whip panning and closup? Thanks again for your help; the review when it's finished will eventually appear in PROJECTIONS, the recently organized journal of the Forum for the Psychoanalytic Study of Film. Anybody who doesn't subscribe and wants a MS copy, please give me your snail mail address. HR GREENBERG MD ENDIT Von Trier's conversion. ---- To signoff SCREEN-L, e-mail [log in to unmask] and put SIGNOFF SCREEN-L in the message. Problems? Contact [log in to unmask]