Irony! I just watched Blow-Up yesterday, and was wondering the very same thing about whether we would call the tennis ball bounce diagetic or non-diagetic sound (an issue we're teaching this week in our Film History class at UofOregon). I think it's diagetic, because it extends the shattering of Thomas' <?> mastery over the very media he works in. But this is only if we treat the diagesis as a sort of self-reflexive allegory. Diagesis is always tricky with art cinema, no? -- Mike Arnzen Stephen Brophy wrote..... I just had an opportunity to watch "Blowup" over the weekend, and as you can imagine I paid considerable attention to the tennis game. As the game gets underway, we only hear the sounds of the mime-players' bodies as they move around the court. The sound of the ball only appears after the photographer picks it up from the grass and throws it back to the players. Since the sound only comes in after he has involved himself in the pretense, I interpret it to represent some complex weakening of his mental state vis a vis reality, given what he has experienced through the night. With this interpretation, the sound of the tennis ball becomes analogous to a voice-over. But that raises a question for me. Are voice-overs and similar devices which are taken to be unreliable considered to be part of the diegesis, or are they non-diagetic? I suspect the former, but perhaps I'm not familiar enough with the concept. Stephen Brophy Cambridge, Mass. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Michael A. Arnzen * Dept of English * University of Oregon NEW URL: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~mikea/arbor/vitae.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The eye sizes it up, flags it down, demands credentials, waves it on." -- Walker Percy, THE MOVIEGOER ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ---- To signoff SCREEN-L, e-mail [log in to unmask] and put SIGNOFF SCREEN-L in the message. Problems? Contact [log in to unmask]