I think Michael has some very valid points and would like to share a theory that I have for your consideration. I think that one of the reasons kids are so interested in seeing this effects created world has to do with how removed from "real" life we have all become. Please let me expound a little. Yes, we do know that cows are killed to give us our T-bone steak, but how many of us are part of that experience. We go to the grocery store where the stench of death is wiped away and purchase our selephane wrap package without a single thought of the process. 50 years ago we raised that cow, named it and shed a little tear while chewing that first bite of rump roast. We experienced death, our loved ones died in their beds with us sitting beside them, not in a sterile hospital room with doctors shooing us away when things went down hill. We knew what the reality was. There is nothing spectacular about dying, one moment your heart is beating and then... Even the local news has joined in the whole escalation process. "If it bleeds it leads" is not just a catch phrase, it's the reality of my local news. It dosn't matter that it happened in Virginia three days ago and has nothing to do with Oklahoma, by God we have great gory video and we're going to use it. They had a field day during the bombing here, the more bloody faces and weeping Mothers the better. I guess what I'm trying to say is that we (especially in America) are so protected from so many of the harsh realities of life that we are looking to experience them some other way. And the Film industry has given us something better than the real thing. But, it's just a theory marla russell AVID editor OKC ---- To signoff SCREEN-L, e-mail [log in to unmask] and put SIGNOFF SCREEN-L in the message. Problems? Contact [log in to unmask]