In response to the query about scenes showing story pitching: In the original A STAR IS BORN (1937), there's a brief exchange at a party about a kid turning and singing to his mother, with the response: "Sounds great! But where do we find a 6-month old kid who can sing?" There are at least a couple of Warner Bros. cartoons that have Daffy and or Porky trying to sell ideas to Leon Schlesinger or Jack Warner. In HOLD BACK THE DAWN (1941), Charles Boyer tells his character's story to the film's director, Mitchell Leisen. SINGIN' IN THE RAIN features a couple of scenes with Kelly and O'Connor trying to save the horrible the talkie they've made, leading up to the setpiece "Broadway Melody" sequence. Don Larsson, Mankato State U (MN) ---- To signoff SCREEN-L, e-mail [log in to unmask] and put SIGNOFF SCREEN-L in the message. Problems? Contact [log in to unmask]