Judging from some of the most recent posts in this list, I probably shouldn't be a subscriber. I have no degree in film and I do not usually look for some deep meaning, philosophy or message in any film I view. Film, to me, for the most part is simply another means of recreation---similar to reading a book. I subscribed to this list with the intention of simply lurking and seing what other people had to say regarding film and the business of making films, and in that context I suppose I am not annoying anyone with my ignorance (until now). So....if my following question is too simple or derives from ignorance of such magnitude that it offends those with extensive film educations, please forgive me. Why did the movie Ishtar fail? I thought it moved slowly the first time I saw it, which led me to think perhaps it should have been edited differently. However, after seeing several times, I have begun to think of it as an excellent movie. Much of the humor is (to my uneducated mind, anyway) sort of like British humor-----understated and unemphasized, yet *absolutely* funny, provided that you pay attention. I appreciate any responses anyone cares to give and again I ask indulgence if my query is too elementary for some. Mike ---- To signoff SCREEN-L, e-mail [log in to unmask] and put SIGNOFF SCREEN-L in the message. Problems? Contact [log in to unmask]