Since the question has been raised, we may really need to decide what constitutes the "narrator" in film to begin with. Seymour Chatman has the "narrator" as our sense of the agency that presents the film's overall narrative. On the other hand, some of the responses on this thread seem to localize the narrator to specific functions of camerawork, soundtrack, and so forth. The initial question seemed to concern especially cases involving presentation of the narrative through a controlling character (especially in voice-over narration) that is later revealed to be false, inaccurate or based on incomplete information. As the range of responses on this thread has indicated, there is a whole range of possible complications between competing elements of narrative information. Sometimes these are quite deliberate--consider something like Don Lockwood's "life story" at the beginning of SINGIN' IN THE RAIN, where the image contradicts the soundtrack. Or it might be unintentional but ideologically conditioned--eg., feminist critics have pointed to the contra- dictions between the male character's voiceovers and the actual visual detail in such films noirs as OUT OF THE PAST. Or the contradictions might be part of a pattern of unresolved ambiguities--for instance, Chabrol's STORY OF WOMEN, which provides what seems to be an objective account of the Huppert character until a scene when her son has been shut out of a room and we get a POV shot through a keyhole. Then, later, when she has been arrested and condemned by the Vichy regime, we hear a voice saying "My mother was executed on this day." Are we then to assume that the entire film has been a reconstructed memory by the woman's son? How does that then account for other camera shots that appear to be POV shots but have no actual source in the film? Don Larsson, Mankato State U (MN) ---- To signoff SCREEN-L, e-mail [log in to unmask] and put SIGNOFF SCREEN-L in the message. Problems? Contact [log in to unmask]