On Fri, 14 Jul 1995 01:59:31 GMT lang thompson said: >Does anybody know whether Variety get its information from the theatres >or the distributors? Billboard's info comes directly from record stores >and not record labels and the NYT book figures from the bookstores. The figures published in VARIETY are come from distributors and are "distributors gross," the money forwarded by theaters as film rental. The week-end flash figures are "box office gross," the money that came in at the box office. This explains the enormity of the initial figures compared to the subsequent ones. The arrangements for film rental vary enormously; in the end the total distributors gross approximates half of the box office figures. Best seller lists whether records or books can be inflated by selective purchasing of titles from the stores which contribute to the lists. At one time everyone in the business knew which bookstores contributed the figures to the NYTimes Best Seller list. With this knowledge it was easy to send people into these selected stores to buy copies of the book. For years the rumor round-and-about was that Paramount had a warehouse full of copies of GODFATHER purchased to get the book on bestsellers lists as promotion for the film. The only way these figures can be useful is as comparative numbers. This is the common practice in the film industry. A film is sold on the basis of having done X-% of a current top grossing film. My guess is that at this moment there are films being promoted to theaters on the basis that "this film did 80% of FORREST GUMP in test screenings." These are useful historical comparisons, however. In one study of the coming of sound it was shown that JAZZ SINGER did well, but not as well as the day-and-date release the silent film WINGS. The numbers were approximately JAZZ SINGER did 65-75% of the top grossing WINGS. ---- To signoff SCREEN-L, e-mail [log in to unmask] and put SIGNOFF SCREEN-L in the message. Problems? Contact [log in to unmask]