a messy question but here's one simple device for clearing up at least some of the mess: movies have suffered from the fact that they represent both through a set of conventional symbols (we are happy to accept that Clark gable is Rhett Butler and that a studio set is Tara) and through the fact that REAL persons and events in the world have been memorialized physically on the film. Novels do only the former; the only real event memorialized in the amuscript of a novel is the author's act of writing, and that in itself is of little interest. Animation has for years shared this quality with novels: that its images do not represnt any pre-filmic reality except for the one imagined by the animators. If movies become "fictional" in this sense, th only thing that will change is the elimination of what has heretofore been a happenstantial--if interesting-- aspect of filmmaking. Only to the extent that a film is of DOCUMENTARY interest will the revolution you imagine make much of a difference. And if you're worried about the role of actors in the new regime, remember Hitchcock's famous claim that in the hands of a good director "actors are cattle." If you find this answer of any interest you might consider forwarding it to the rest of the list. My own e-mail skills are so limited that having written this much I do not know how to do anything except send it on to you personally. Mike Frank <[log in to unmask]> ---- To signoff SCREEN-L, e-mail [log in to unmask] and put SIGNOFF SCREEN-L in the message. Problems? Contact [log in to unmask]