On Thu, 8 Jun 1995, Donald Larsson wrote: > Gloria Monti comments: > Last, let me mention internal diegetic sound: when the source of > the sound belongs to the mind of a character & external diegetic sound: I > am quoting Bordwell&Thompson, because their definition was never too > clear to me--"that which we as spectators take to have a physical source > in the scene." (310) Maybe they simply mean onscreen diegetic sound? An > example of that does not come to mind easily." > > Nope--External diegetic sound isn't necessarily onscreen--as your first > paragraph indicates, external diegetic can also be (and often is) offscreen. Sorry. I meant to write *offscreen* diegetic sound. My typo. > Clear examples would be hearing a character's voice and knowing that the > character is in the room but not seeing him or her. I maintain my confusion. Then the question becomes: what's the difference between external diegetic sound and offscreen diegetic sound? > Internal diegetic sound, on the other hand, is access to a character's > thoughts-- > as in Olivier's soliloquy's in HAMLET and HENRY IV (compare to the use of > external diegetic for same speeches in the Zefferelli Zeffirelli. Now we're even typowise. :-) Gloria Monti ---- To signoff SCREEN-L, e-mail [log in to unmask] and put SIGNOFF SCREEN-L in the message. Problems? Contact [log in to unmask]