----------------------------Original message---------------------------- There are several film/video stock footage houses that will have the footage you described. Although you will have to pay a price for it.. some stock footage houses may have better prices than others, so shop around. Here are a few places you can try: Energy Productions 1-818-508-1444 Dreamlight Images 1-213-850-1996 1-212-686-4900 (NY) Stock Shots 1-818-760-2098 Fish Films 1-818-905-1071 That's all of the names I currently have. Jason Hartley MidCoast Productions Davenport, Iowa [log in to unmask]