----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I have always heard that Robert Wise's "The Desert Fox" (1950) was the first film to use a "pre-credit" sequence. Also, the credits to "It's in the Bag" (1945) starring Jack Benny and Fred Allen, had Fred Allen making wisecracks about the personnel on the credits as they were running. e.g. "Associate Producer - he's the only one in town who'll associate with the producer!" In an early talkie (sorry - forgot the title), the new medium was exploited by having a narrator read the credits, not unlike Orson Welles did at the conclusion of "The Magnificent Ambersons" William Dieterle's "The Devil and Daniel Webster" (All That Money Can Buy) [1941] had all the technical credits at the end of the film, often with no detailed credits except for "in front of the camera" or "in back of the camera". Gene Stavis, School of Visual Arts - NYC