re:susan denker's criticism of my posting on madness in which she denies my mad=creative sales pitch i did not say or imply that madness is equal to creativity. i referred to the madness which victor claims to have, a mad desire for discovery and innovation. this simply means a drive that is, or should be, unfettered by concerns which hinder the progress of technology. this is not to say i don 't see definite connections between madness and creativity... art is many times a culturally sanctioned form of thought or actions which would normally be considered mad. denis