Jeffrey, Clear something up for me, would you? When you write, "These fem nazis are all just a bunch of male bashers, and we don't need them," aren't you being somewhat "nazi" yourself? I put nazi in quotes intentionally, because I'm not in the business of finding and labelling nazis. But I do know they were very interested in finding and labelling persons who bothered them for reasons they often themselves didn't understand, and then "getting rid of" them. Discuss with feminists--if that is what you mean--of course, and even argue; and make your case, if you have a case. But why "get rid of" them? What's "get rid of"? There are people here arguing the list manager should "get rid of" you, and I note with some relief that he hasn't exactly done that yet. "Getting rid of" isn't the central issue, is it?