i think that the terms we're using need some clarification. what is glorification? what is violence (for example, it's not equivalent to war). as to platoon or glory: both are certainly romanticized versions of supposedly historical relationships among u.s. troops. the chris/sheen/stone character has a very pretty relationship with elias/dafoe, so that elias' death is magnified emotionally for the audience, etc. this is filmic realism, not reality. glory works similarly: that final image of washington and broderick's dead bodies in the pit together: ah the humanity. this is romantic, not necessarily glorified. rambo, norris: these are easy targets, which doens't mean that occasionally they don't open up interesting, problematic topics. both are einvolved in interracial relationships with women, for example.... my point is, it doesn't seem useful to make easy divisions: these are good and these are bad representations, or to say that glorification is per se a bad thing. what's going on seems more complicated than this. cindy