Allan: Thanks for your post. My goal in that post of mine with all the statistics was to make the point that movies, TV, whatever, have such an effect on society that many of us end up believing everything we see and hear, despite the facts. Many of the replies to that post made the point even stronger. Many people won't believe the truth when they've been exposed to a different POV for so long. Its not their fault, I don't think. If someone kept telling me everyday that Sun rises in the West, sooner or later I'd believe that even though my eyes might see things quite differently. I think its a good subject for discussion in terms of films and TV. We rant and rave about violence in films and decry the proliferation of all sorts of "bad" things, but we allow much of the screwy spousal abuse line to go right by. That's okay. See what I mean? I wonder which is worse? A few years ago, here in LA, a large group of mothers were upset about movie and TV violence and the effect they thought it was having on their children. So what did they do? They had a law passed to make the sale of squirt guns illegal in the City! You can buy all the REAL guns you want...Uzzi's, Glocks, AR15's, you name it. BUT NO SQUIRT GUNS! I hear snorring out there. Better stop. ____________________________________________________________________________ "So here I am sitting in a jacuzzi with bubbles shooting up my ___ and a bottle of Wild Turkey in my hand. Now I know I've made it!" ("Middle Aged Crazy") ---------------->from John G. Thomas ([log in to unmask]) <------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________