Much as I hate to, I have to agree with Withers. There is so much noise on the net - particularly if you want to focus on anything at all. And so may, even of these lists, are self-reflexive, self- conscious talk about talk - it's nice to have one that provides continuous fare. If someone really wants to join, there's no problem - and if someone is sufficiently interested in film or video, she'll come across it. I've had to do listserv searches myself, for example, to find relevant information, but it's not hard. Alan Sondheim before his cup of coffee. // [ // ] ...rain... // \\ [ \\ ] \\ ...still...