In response to Steve Kokker's query about Amos Vogel, I was Amos Vogel's teaching assistant/teaching 'associate' at the Annenberg School for several years (as was Bill Mikulak, Dave Perlmutter, Kent Goshorn, and a few other netters out there). Amos and I kept up correspondence over the years, but NOT over E-mail. I recommend, therefore, that you contact Phebe Shinn at the Annenberg School ([log in to unmask]), though if I know Amos the most you'll get is a mailing address, and likely not a private one at that. Phebe was his secretary for years, however, and would know how to reach him. I also suspect Bill Mikulak will respond to your query, and he is undoubtedly more up to date on this than I. Let me know what you find; it's been a while since I talked with Amos, and I should get in touch with him. Regards, -- Derek Bouse