From: <[log in to unmask]> Since I'm not a subscriber to screen-l, I'll apologize in advance for any redundancies that follow. In the proposed continuum, the mods/rockers=punks equation is problematic. (Perhaps a group rereading of Dick Hebdige's sub- cultures is in order.) Educating Rita as a stop point is an intriguing choice,in the questions it raises. Where do the fashion statements of late 20 & 30's somethings in the working class fit into discussions of youth culture? Is punk as an issue of fashion/insignia the same as punk as an attitude/state of mind (one hesitates to utter the word philosophy)? But aren't both movies selected English productions? Where does Hollywood cooption get in the picture? Regardless, this continuum is an odd one since neither film mentioned has much to wit h punk. But if they did, the continuum could run much further in either direc- tion. Clockwork Orange springs to mind, as does 1959's Beat Generation, althoug h it could run as far back as the exploitation movies of the 30's (remember all those wild eyed, reefer puffing musicians?). In the opposite direction, it's probably still going on. My Private Idaho, Repo Man, Jubilee, River's Edge, and most self-consciously punk of all, Alex Cox's Walker, a Last Movie for the 80s that pushes punk into the Brecht Dimension. Anyway, that's my 2 cents. I'll close with the words of Veda Pierce to her mom, the venerable Mildred (I'm sorry to say I don't think this is in the movie): "I thought I was a prodigy, but I was just another punk." see ya mike breiner burlington, vt. *<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>* * * * Martha Day Internet: [log in to unmask] * * UVM Bailey/Howe Library Bitnet: [log in to unmask] * * Reference Dept/B104 Phone: 802-656-0895 * * Burlington, VT 05405-0036 FAX: 802-656-4038 * * * * * *<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*<>*