You may have thought of this by now but if you can't lick them join them. Suggest that the course be cross listed in philosophy and communications. Perhaps someone in philosophy can come in to your class and have some share of the glory. If they don't want to do that sort of thing they will just be getting in the way of a valid effort on your part to answer a communications need. They must demonstrate that they have the teaching personnel to handle communications issues as well as ethics. David Wiley UT Chattanooga [log in to unmask] or [log in to unmask]