To: P.J. O'Connell and others interested in discussing objectivity It is my opinion that objectivity along with subjectivity has outlived their usefulness. The concepts were derived from a discredited notion of science called positivism. It has been replaced with the notion that human beings represent the world according to their identities - cultural, class, gender, etc. These representations are neither subjective or objective but rather a reflection of our ideologies. Objectivity according to marxists, feminists, and other critics, a tool of the establishment in that if you can get the public to believe that news is objective you can control what people know. From my perspective the last place where people actually discuss objectivity is among journalist and documentary filmmakers the rest of the intellectual community no longer considers it an interesting or worh worthy concept. Jay Ruby, Temple