Leo Loathe as I am to wade into this discussion... I live and work in London and am a user of public transport. Hopefully this means that you might recognise my viewpoint. Anyway- It makes for an embarrassingly hideous spectacle to view an ad-hominem attack on Ken Loach and any person who dares appreciate his work as a director. Leo Said: >I recognise those images for what they are - >fiction, pure and simple. I am unsure if your 'pure and simple' approach is one that will set the academic world on fire. For most of the students and academics I know, there is much enjoyment and satisfaction to be had in analysing images- reading and decoding their ideologies, and investigating their social and historic contexts in order to understand the medium better. Many would find the suggestion that we *believe* what we see quite insulting. Leo Said: > Loach, I suspect, would have > us travelling around in a horse and cart if it > fitted his vision of a Pol > Pot-style socialist utopia. I hope you aren't nearly as attached and subjective in all of your own writing. Also- I hope you appreciate the irony in labeling Loach's work 'propaganda', having noted the film 'I Married a Communist' in your initial selection of union-featuring films. Nick Dale ---- To sign off Screen-L, e-mail [log in to unmask] and put SIGNOFF Screen-L in the message. Problems? Contact [log in to unmask]