>>Just because Bazin theorized it, don't make it necessarily so... unless, of course, the concept entered the discourse of film criticism through bazin's initiatory formulation . . . to some extent when we talk about long takes and realism we are inevitably participating in a game the rules of which were, willy-nilly, laid down by bazin himself mike ---- For past messages, visit the Screen-L Archives: http://bama.ua.edu/archives/screen-l.html