Dear listmembers Bear with me - this does have something to do with film. . . I'm currently teaching a new course on girl singers in the 20th century, and tomorrow's lecture focusses on representations of sex. This morning I was trying to work out precisely *when* metaphor/slang became dispensable in lyrics about sex. I'm not talking about the 'heavy breathing' stuff by Jane Birkin and Donna Summer, I mean more like Kate Bush's "Feel It" or "In The Warm Room," both of which were released in 1978 and both of which are, well, explicit (and in a way, a whole lot more explicit than anything Madonna has ever turned out). I kind of wanted to place this in context, and I wondered if there was a simultaneous moment in mainstream film musical set-pieces (as a kind of precursor to video) where visual metaphor was simply done away with, or at least became so minimal that there was nothing to "read", or not a lot was left to the imagination. The earliest I can remember was the "Air-otica" (?) scene in *All That Jazz* (1979). Haven't seen the film in over 20 years, but I can still visualise the number in my head, so it *must* have made an impression. . . Anyone else got any ideas? Was this really a late seventies thing? Or is it just because that by 1979 I was able to get into 18/R movies, so I was experiencing this stuff for the first time? Thanks in advance Laurie Dr Laurie Stras Music, School of Humanities University of Southampton Southampton SO17 1BJ UK tel: +44 (0)23 8059 3425 fax: +44 (0)23 8059 3197 http://www.soton.ac.uk/~lastras Musica Secreta are on Linn Records www.linnrecords.com "Were Botticelli's Primavera to burst into song, she would probably sound like this." - Independent on Sunday ---- Screen-L is sponsored by the Telecommunication & Film Dept., the University of Alabama: http://www.tcf.ua.edu