on the advantage of a badly dubbed version in the original langauge shari rosenblum writes: Mike Frank (see also, Jeremy Butler) writes: > thus when i teach bertolucci's CONFORMIST i have > to choose between a version dubbed in italian or > one dubbed in english -- and the lip-synch is really > no better in the former than in the latter . . . This is to me where the facial expressions, kinetics, vocal resonances etc. make the difference. In the Italian, only the lip-synch is off -- in the English, there are a host of visual and aural conflicts making assimilation of the film a veritable task. Or maybe I'm just hypersensitive. and i'm delighted, for it makes rational a preference that i felt strongly but had never been able to defend as coherently . . . i suppose the implication of this is that a really expert dubbing into another language, that was answerable to ALL aspects of the verbal communication [tone of voice, integration of voice and body language, etc.] and not only the literal meaning of the words might be successful . . . but surely most of the dubbed versions we've been subjected to are pretty slovenly . . . m.f. >===== Original Message From Film and TV Studies Discussion List <[log in to unmask]> ===== >From: "Shari L. Rosenblum" <[log in to unmask]> on 08/10/2000 02:17 PM > AST > >Please respond to Film and TV Studies Discussion List > <[log in to unmask]> > >To: [log in to unmask] >cc: >Subject: Re: foreign-language films > > >Mike Frank (see also, Jeremy Butler) writes: > >> thus when i teach bertolucci's CONFORMIST i have >> to choose between a version dubbed in italian or >> one dubbed in english -- and the lip-synch is really >> no better in the former than in the latter . . . > >This is to me where the facial expressions, kinetics, vocal >resonances etc. make the difference. In the Italian, only >the lip-synch is off -- in the English, there are a host of >visual and aural conflicts making assimilation of the film >a veritable task. > >Or maybe I'm just hypersensitive. > >Shari Rosenblum > >---- >Screen-L is sponsored by the Telecommunication & Film Dept., the >University of Alabama: http://www.tcf.ua.edu ---- Screen-L is sponsored by the Telecommunication & Film Dept., the University of Alabama: http://www.tcf.ua.edu