As the person whose question (worded in as non-partisan a way as I could manage) started this controversy--the one on political discussions on this list serve--I'd like to offer the following few points. First, the history of (narrative) film includes "Birth of a Nation", "Strike" "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington", "Rome, Open City", "On the Waterfront", "The Human Condition", "Ashes and Diamonds", "I Am Cuba", "The Manchurian Candidate", "WR: Mysteries of the Organism", "Weekend", "Jeanne Dielman", "1900", "The Last of England", "The Unbearable Lightness of Being", "Forrest Gump"... (Oh, and the 1950s Hollywood blacklist and the 1980s assault on the humanities-in-general that Dennis has already addressed...) Clearly, all of these bring up obvious and still-vital political issues and concerns. Secondly, we all know that most of the celebrated *written* texts in film studies, starting with Sigfried Kracauer's "From Calagari to Hitler" and including Bill Nichols "Ideology and the Image" and David Rodowick's "The Crisis of Political Modernism", are explicitly political in the way they approach their investigations of the cinema. Thus, again, it seems absurd to me to suggest that politics are an inappropriate subject for film scholars, workers, and fans to bring up on a forum like this. Political discussion about the cinema strikes me as *far* more important than debating the relative merits of Todd-AO or Super VistaVision or arguing about which aspect ratio "Miller's Crossing" is meant to be shown in. (Although the nice thing about this list-serve is that it's good for people wanting answers to these kinds of questions, too.) Finally, to make one last reference to Eleni's posting, I would respectfully assert that political discourse is *much* more legitimate on this list-serve than claims about which director is, or is not, overrated. This is a discussion that can easily descend into meaningless assertions. Eleni suggests Bergman's overrated (although I'm finding hardly anyone who'll actually defend his work anymore). I'd say Kubrick's a naked emperor. Most of my students from "Film History II" said Parajanov sucked. Yadda, yadda, yadda... Best wishes to all (and special thanks to those who helped me find the William Bennett quote.) =) Daniel Isaac Humphrey Department of Art & Art History University of Rochester 424 Morey Hall Rochester NY 14627-0456 www.rochester.edu/College/AAH/people/grad/humphrey.html ---- Online resources for film/TV studies may be found at ScreenSite http://www.tcf.ua.edu/ScreenSite