For a piece I'm working on about BREAKING THE WAVES. lst: I was struck by the frontality of the film. The only other movies I can remember with so many whip pans are Kanegusa's PAGE OF MADNESS and NIGHT AND FOG IN JAPAN by Oshima. I estimate that at least 7-80% of BREAKING THE WAVES was done in whip-panning/close up (which by the way if you haven't seen it yet and have a motion sickness problem you need to sit way back and/or wear a dramamine patch). Relatively few long shots in this film. Does this accord with others' experience? Any sense why -- I have a few ideas. Haven't seen ZENTROPA for awhile, can't recall similar strategy, havent seen other Van Trier films so don't know if he does this regularly or not. 2nd: Need list of associated films where a woman redeems (more or less) a feckless man (men)) with the intense purity of her love. maybe gets martyred in the process. Soap opera staple, but do any better examples of the breed come to mind? I can think of -- at this moment -- PASSIONE D'AMORE by Ettore Scola; LETTER FROM AN UNKNOWN WOMAN; JANE EYRE (maybe); THE PIANO (possibly not): JOAN OF ARC (various versions), so forth. Any help greatly appreciated! Harvey Roy Greenberg MD ([log in to unmask] ---- To signoff SCREEN-L, e-mail [log in to unmask] and put SIGNOFF SCREEN-L in the message. Problems? Contact [log in to unmask]