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PM-DOS  July 1998, Week 4

PM-DOS July 1998, Week 4

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Re: Difference between RETURN PATH and FROM?

From:

Mark Zec <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 22 Jul 1998 16:44:50 -0400

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The following exchange recently occurred on the PM-WIN list:
 
> > We have just come across a funny thing. Because we use a
> > different ISP for sending our mail out than we use for it comming in
> > (don't ask why) we have the reply address set in the UDG.
> > However, some of our client's email software looks like it reply's to
> > the RETURN PATH header rather than the FROM header. Our
> > FROM header looks right, but the return path is what seems to be
> > in the PEGASUS/NETWORK/SETTINGS FOR RECEIVING MAIL
> > fields. How can I make it so that we get the same thing in the
> > RETURN PATH as we do in FROM, ie. "Bob Smith"
> > <[log in to unmask]>? Can the UDG set this somehow?
>
> Yes.
>
> The following is an excerpt from the Pegasus Mail Help file that
> explains why this happens and how it can be corrected:
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Advanced Configuration for WinSock Mail
>
> When you click the Advanced Configuration Options button in the
> Network Configuration dialog, you will be presented with a screen
> where you can tailor the more specialised or technical options
> controlling the way Pegasus Mail retrieves and sends your mail.
>
> Options for outgoing (SMTP) mail:
>
> Use user-supplied "from" field in SMTP envelope. An Internet Mail
> message consists of two sections - the message and the envelope. The
> envelope is a kind of "wrapper" of delivery information that is passed
> from SMTP host to SMTP host, and includes information about the sender
> and recipients of the message in transit. You will usually never see the
> envelope, as it is discarded once the message is actually delivered. The
> only remnant of the envelope in your message is a special field amongst
> the message headers called Return-path, which contains the authenticated
> address of the original sender of the message. The Return-path
> information is usually only used by SMTP servers to handle errors, but
> unfortunately there are some mail systems on the Internet that ignore
> your "From" field address and instead send replies to whatever value is
> stored in the Return-path header. By default, Pegasus Mail forms the
> return-path header from your POP3 username and server information, since
> it knows this address is valid. In some cases, though, your POP3 address
> information may not be valid in the outside world - it might only be
> valid when you contact your Internet Service Provider directly. In cases
> like this, the small group of aberrant mail systems on the Internet may
> end up trying to reply to you using an address that is not valid.
> Checking this control tells Pegasus Mail to form your Return-path headers
> using the information you have supplied rather than the authenticated
> POP3 server information. Doing this will on one hand probably fix the
> problems users on the aberrant systems are having sending replies to you,
> but on the other hand may create local delivery problems. In short, if
> you have someone report that they cannot reply to your address even
> though you have a valid address in the "from field" section of this
> dialog, try checking this control.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Is there a way to create the same type of "envelope" for the DOS version
of Pegasus? I don't use the DOS version often (only when I'm away with my
old non-Windows laptop), but when I do, I occasionally get errors similar
to the one mentioned above, with the Return Path being used instead of the
valid "From" or "Reply-to" headers.
 
I'm using the most current version of Pegasus-DOS along with SMTPop as the
transport agent....PMPop only works with SMTP, not ESMTP, so I can't use
it with Earthlink.
 
Thanks!
 
Mark
 
 
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