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Norman Holland <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi, all,

Isn't an there a simpler explanation of the excesses of the 50s?
Hollywood's sudden need to compete with television.

                      --With warm regards,

                                   Norm
Norm Holland
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On Nov 30, 2007 9:23 AM, Frank, Michael <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> to adam, and onlookers, a subversive question:
>
> for all i know there may be a powerful connection between cinematic
> excess and consumer wallets . . . but why BEGIN a research project by
> presupposing this and then asking whether there's any evidence to
> support it? . . . the whole point of scholarship [in any field] should
> be to determine what counts [within a given discourse] as an acceptable
> answer to a significant question . . . the point is not [or certainly
> should not be] to posit an answer and then search in obscure places for
> whatever shreds of information might count as evidence
>
> i hate to pick on adam, who as a ph.d. student is no doubt simply
> emulating those whom he sees as defining proper procedure for his field
> . . . it's precisely the discursive premises of the field itself that
> this query calls into vivid question -- a question that i find extremely
> embarrassing
>
> thoughts?
>
> mike
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Film and TV Studies Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Adam Fish
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:40 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [SCREEN-L] Class in 50s Cinema
>
> Film Scholars,
>
> I need to make connections between the late-1940s-1950s rise of the
> consumerist class, the class of the producers/directors of the
> musicals/epics/spectaculars of that era, and/or a class explanation
> for what appears on screen in the 1950s. I am connecting 1950s class
> to cinema production culture and/or screen events. Can you recommend a
> book or person to talk to? Was all the musical and spectacular excess
> of the period an accurate representation of buying power or
> aspirations for future commodity excess?
>
> Yours,
>
> Adam Fish
> UCLA: Anthropology, PhD student
> Current TV, VC2 Producer
>
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