Rick Prelinger put together a CD-ROM called _Ephemeral Films: 1930-1960_ that might contain the films you are looking for; it is full of stuff like your meat film. He must have a website and may have additional info as well. Gene Walz University of Manitoba Winnipeg ---- To sign off Screen-L, e-mail [log in to unmask] and put SIGNOFF Screen-L in the message. Problems? Contact [log in to unmask]