There's nothing mean spirited about that request. How many times have we asked students to do the same in our seminars and classes? It was meant to be comical, and invoke jest into what is clearly an issue of personal opinion.
Understand that the past circumstance I wrote of is not meant to reflect anything about Peter's needs, but instead offers evidence of a worse case scenario. Peter made it clear what he needed, yet his request still created an honest dilogue about responsibility and intention - as evidenced by all the varying perspectives. Even his own response to the "hub-bub" indicated a desire to clarify what he intended to accomplish.
Also, my notion of "hanging out" with students is a direct response to a previous post made by our colleague. We are free to develop whatever kind of relationships we care to.
However, from my perspective, having the desire to maintain relationships with students that incorporates professionalism and mutual respect, has nothing to do with treating them indecently. Quite the opposite: we treat them as we would other "grown-ups," hence the call for responsibility.
Darrell M. Newton, Ph.D.
Chair and Associate Professor
The Department of Communication Arts
Salisbury University
260 Fulton Hall
Salisbury, MD 21801
(410) 677-5060 Office
(410) 543-6229 Department
http://faculty.salisbury.edu/~dmnewton/
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From: Film and TV Studies Discussion List [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Frank, Michael [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 7:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [SCREEN-L] a note regarding the request on negative criticism on alfred hitchcock as an auteur
Not to create a bone of contention, but personally I find myself agreeing with Gloria. I don't mind having conversations with undergrads to help spark ideas, but I never was one to "hang out" with them, even electronically. The young man may not have any dubious intentions, but he really should do his own homework.
I recall a similar situation some years ago, in which a student sent forth a fake call for papers on British SciFi to a certain listserv, and then used the abstracts to help her defend her orals. There never was a panel.
As for my two cents, there was some criticism over auteur Hitchcock's treatment of actress Kim Novak after her "illicit" romance with Sammy Davis, Jr. became public. Despite being considered the consummate pro, and having worked with Novak in Vertigo (1958), Hitchcock banned her from his next project, From Amongst the Dead.
Now then Peter - you find the citation!
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i'm sorry, but the two situations are not in the least similar . . . one is an honest attempt to be directed to sources that the writer plans to use honestly, the other is simply fraud . . . and to give the asker information and then tease him with a "you find the citation" is simply mean spirited . . . when we write an essay and cite some obscure info we feel obliged to indicate where we found it . . . i cannot imagine why the same decency would not apply here
and none of this has anything whatsoever to do with "hanging out" with one's students . . . you don't have to like socializing with them to treat them with a modicum of decency
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