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Alison McKee <[log in to unmask]>
Fri, 17 Jun 1994 15:16:00 PDT
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I admire the manner in which Gene Stavis has been arguing his view of
of the development of film history, and as it happens, I find myself in
general agreement with his points. I have also found the majority
of the posts from those who disagree with Gene, or who challenge certain
statements, equally useful and thought-provoking.
However, I am not sure that the level of this discussion -- or any other --
is enhanced by the kind of sarcasm exhibited in Denise Bryson's post
(attached).  This is not to attack Denise per se . . . I'm rather fond of
sarcasm myself . . . but it seems to me that this is the kind of stuff that
can lead to flame wars -- which, most folks agree, get boring fast.
Potentially, I might be inclined to agree with some of the ideas
which Denise's remarks imply, but as they stand now, they
seem both dismissive and disrespectful -- and the debate so far, regardless of
what side one takes, has been neither.
Alison McKee
Department of Film and Television
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> >What we have been talking about in this thread is the development of film
> >syntax, grammar, form and content, not simply "random views". I would look
> >forward to some real information which could challenge my understanding of
> >film development as I have expressed it here. I don't believe I have any
> >cultural motivation in citing the facts I have. But I am always open to
> > relevant new information.
> >Gene Stavis, School of Visual Arts - NYC
> Those easily offended by parodies of politically correct stances, do
> not read any further|
> <insert appropriatele superior eye-roll>
> Oh, GENE|  Don't you know that ALL US citizens are inherently culturally
> motivated?  That we're ALL ethnocentric, patriarchal, racist pigs? Don't
> you know that the East is INHERENTLY better than the West?  That our own
> culture (miserable crumb that it is) isn't really worth studying?
> Even if you THINK you're not culturally motivated, you ARE|  And your
> continued belief that film as a narrative art was developed mainly in
> the West PROVES how racist/sexist/patriarchal/ethnocentric you ARE|
> <insert superior sniff>
> I find it disturbing that a professional like you doesn't agree with
> me.  I'm afraid it doesn't bode well for your stage of enlightenment.
> <turns away and refuses to discuss anything more with an ethnocentric
> pig>
> *We now return you to our regularly scheduled academic discussion*
> ___________________________________________________________________
> : Denise M. Bryson, Northeast Missouri State University            :
> : Division of Language and Literature                              :
> : Kirksville, Missouri  63501                                      :
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