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"Laramee, Michael J" <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:43:39 -0400
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I am not sure I've read all the responses but some classic reflexive incorporations of the cinematic screen in films that come to my mind are Buster Keaton's SHERLOCK JR, Godard's VIVRE SA VIE and the scene where Anna watches Dreyer's PASSION OF JOAN OF ARC, and almost anything by Wim Wenders---but in particular I am thinking of Conversations about Cities and Clothes, where the opening sequence includes several fractions of screens and viewfinder-like images.  Also, a recent film by Mahamat-Saleh Haroun, ABOUNA, includes a mesmerizing scene where the two young boys view their father on a cinema screen while out searching for him in Chad's deserts.

I also believe that Robert Stam wrote a book called Reflexivity: From Don Quixote to Godard, that includes at least a chapter about the use of screens on screen or something very closely related.  It was an older book but Stam is always worth reading.

Good Luck!! 
From: Film and TV Studies Discussion List [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Britta Feyerabend [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 1:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [SCREEN-L] incorporation of TV/cinema screen into cinema narrative

Hi MIchael,

sounds like Woody Allen's "Play It Again, Sam" is what you are looking
for. Not only is the movie screen a major part of protagonist Allan
Felix's life (he's a film critic and therefore criticized and left by
his wife, who accuses him of being - instead of a doer, a watcher) and
the movie begins with the screening of "Casablanca," the blurring
between reality and fiction becomes more and more complex as Felix
begins to interact with Bogey in "real life"...


Am 06.06.2010 um 16:07 schrieb Frank, Michael:

> HITCHCOCK'S SABOTAGE -- dealt with in detail by susan smith in her
> splendid book on hitchcock
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 10:13 AM
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> Subject: [SCREEN-L] incorporation of TV/cinema screen into cinema
> narrative
> I wonder if someone would be kind enough to direct me toward any
> studies --
> or even mere lists of examples -- which have been made of the
> incorporation
> of images of a TV (and/or cinema) screen into a film's narrative --
> screen
> within a screen, that is. What I have chiefly in mind are complex
> examples
> such as Arturo Ripstein's AsŪ es la vida, Stone's Any Given Sunday,
> Cronenberg's Videodrome, Dassin's Dream of Passion, etc., in which the
> screen's images are somehow integral to (or make ironic comment
> upon) the
> on-going narrative. In Any Given Sunday, e.g., Wyler's 1959 Ben-Hur
> plays on
> a screen in order to produce an ironic atmosphere in a key scene.
> However,
> any instance, even incidental, in which a TV or film screen is
> incorporated
> would interest me.
> Gratefully,
> Bill McCarthy
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