>I admire the manner in which Gene Stavis has been arguing his view of
>of the development of film history, and as it happens, I find myself in
>general agreement with his points. I have also found the majority
>of the posts from those who disagree with Gene, or who challenge certain
>statements, equally useful and thought-provoking.
>However, I am not sure that the level of this discussion -- or any other --
>is enhanced by the kind of sarcasm exhibited in Denise Bryson's post
>(attached). This is not to attack Denise per se . . . I'm rather fond of
>sarcasm myself . . . but it seems to me that this is the kind of stuff that
>can lead to flame wars -- which, most folks agree, get boring fast.
>Potentially, I might be inclined to agree with some of the ideas
>which Denise's remarks imply, but as they stand now, they
>seem both dismissive and disrespectful -- and the debate so far, regardless of
>what side one takes, has been neither.
Mea culpa. I truly thought that the disclaimer attached might help
to avoid leading anybody to take the post so bloody seriously.
I'll keep my disrespectful comments to myself from now on....sorry.
Certainly didn't mean anything terrible by them. Certainly agree thatth
there ARE sexist, racist, ethnocentric pigs out there. Certainly also
think that nobody on here espouses ANY of those views, and was trying
(in an apparently dismissive fashion) to perhaps point that out by a
bit of self(?) parody.
It's 50 lashes with a 16 mm film for me.
Denise, appropriately chastened and returning to the mists.....
>> >What we have been talking about in this thread is the development of film
>> >syntax, grammar, form and content, not simply "random views". I would look
>> >forward to some real information which could challenge my understanding of
>> >film development as I have expressed it here. I don't believe I have any
>> >cultural motivation in citing the facts I have. But I am always open to
>> > relevant new information.
>> >Gene Stavis, School of Visual Arts - NYC
>> *HEAVY SARCASM ALERT*
>> Those easily offended by parodies of politically correct stances, do
>> not read any further|
>> <insert appropriatele superior eye-roll>
>> Oh, GENE| Don't you know that ALL US citizens are inherently culturally
>> motivated? That we're ALL ethnocentric, patriarchal, racist pigs? Don't
>> you know that the East is INHERENTLY better than the West? That our own
>> culture (miserable crumb that it is) isn't really worth studying?
>> Even if you THINK you're not culturally motivated, you ARE| And your
>> continued belief that film as a narrative art was developed mainly in
>> the West PROVES how racist/sexist/patriarchal/ethnocentric you ARE|
>> <insert superior sniff>
>> I find it disturbing that a professional like you doesn't agree with
>> me. I'm afraid it doesn't bode well for your stage of enlightenment.
>> <turns away and refuses to discuss anything more with an ethnocentric
>> *We now return you to our regularly scheduled academic discussion*
>> : Denise M. Bryson, Northeast Missouri State University :
>> : Division of Language and Literature :
>> : Kirksville, Missouri 63501 :
>> : :
>> : [log in to unmask] :
>> : :
>> : "Truly, you have a dizzying intellect." Westley, aka The Man :
>> : in Black :
º Denise M. Bryson, Northeast Missouri State University º
º Division of Language and Literature º
º Kirksville, Missouri 63501 º
º [log in to unmask] º
º "Truly, you have a dizzying intellect." Westley, aka The Man º
º in Black º