On Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:26:56 -0400 Mike Frank said: > 2. is this idea conventionally a part of the scholarship and >criticism on the western, hard-boiled detective story, and noir modes and >mythologies that i somehow have managed to miss [or forget]? . . . are thre >any "standard" or important explorations of this connection? (has leslie >fielder wirtten about this--he must have, no???) I think it's a commonplace of pop culture criticism (circa 1970s), so much so that a coherent challenge to it is probably due. The Cliff's Notes version of the connection between western heroes and private eyes (or whatever) is that American heroes in any setting are variations on the "classic" archetype best embodied by Leatherstocking (loner who negotiates between civilization and savagery, fears women / domesticity, often has a single male companion / sidekick). Fiedler's work on the Leatherstocking / Huck Finn paradigm is certainly relevant. A scholar you might run through the ol' MLA is John G. Cawelti, who has written extensively on the western and the detective story. I know he has at least one article (from sometime in the 1970s--I can find the specific reference in my notes if you're interested) on the two icons you're interested in. In THE SIX-GUN MYSTIQUE, though, Cawelti challenges the critical cliche that the cop film (a la DIRTY HARRY) is basically "a western in modern dress." (I can also give you Cawelti's e-mail address privately--he's a nice guy and would be receptive to questions). Christian L. Pyle University of Kentucky ---- To signoff SCREEN-L, e-mail [log in to unmask] and put SIGNOFF SCREEN-L in the message. Problems? Contact [log in to unmask]