meryem ersoz writes that she likes to think of diegetic and non (or extra) -d as terms to help interrogate thexts rather than as stabble categories; and offers in evidence the sound accompanying the final fall in H's SABOTEUR. i agree that that sound, like others in H's work, is particularly interesting, but it does nothing at all to deconstruct the categories . . . that we can't from the evidence deteremine which of two categories something falls into says nothing about the categories and much about the evidence . . . that i do not know whether meryem ersoz is a man or a woman--as in fact i do not--says nothing at all about those classifications, but a lot about my won narrow cultural experiences perhaps a case can be made that the categories of diegetic and extra-d--like the catgegories of male and female-- CAN (should?) be dismantled; but the case in point does nothing to make that case mike frank <[log in to unmask]> ---- To signoff SCREEN-L, e-mail [log in to unmask] and put SIGNOFF SCREEN-L in the message. Problems? Contact [log in to unmask]