Start your engines. it seems to me like one of the love it/hate it kind of things. [2 women in line turning to their male company say " i don't even want to say the title"]. i was a "love it" person. draws on alot of source material [at least in my fantasy] that connects with me -- demonic parodying of old tv--[mary hartman?]/and current tv == "serious" crime re-enactment shows/japanese monster movies/ horror movies in general -- esp. night of the living dead & some chainsaw massacre/and the more "dreamlike" movies -- apocalypse now and stone's own work [doors]/ and some david lynch.... does it succeed in making a statement about violence [violently?]/ i think yes... far from the graphic "realistic" violence of say henry portrait of a serial killer [ which made me nauseous and that's hard to do]/ the role of the media is well-skewered though almost too much of a caricature i particularly liked the constant flashbacks to the "inner child" of the killers -- the twisted childhoods that they carried so close to the surface [bunnies with fangs and all] i suppose if one is not an mtv fan alot of the non-narrative anything-goes sort of cinematography is going to be new, different and maybe difficult. for me it was refreshing, i am so bored of hollywood talking down to me, looking for that demographic common demoninator [ "in one eye, out the other"]... tired of being so disappointed [ true lies, speed, ok most of the summer fare with the exception of red rock west] ok enough for starters what did YOU think? charley, minneapolis