Having been guilty of PC-mouth runoff may I susggest that: a) the conference remain unmoderated b) users/contributors refrain from long-winded, ancilliary discussion c) the organizers employ the same trick the Truckers do on the CB radio, ask the offender to go to another channel with the discussion (ie., go one-on-one and not post on the ListServ) This of course smacks of 'big-brotherism' but it may help -- somewhat. rj <[log in to unmask]>