The film made this look like some kind of chicanery. I don't see it that way. Secondary sources are secondary sources. On Nov 3, 2010, at 8:17 AM, Larsson, Donald F wrote: > I have mixed feelings about the response to the student, but as a > cautionary example see the scene in THE SOCIAL NETWORK where > Zuckerberg knocks off an art history paper but accumulating comments > on a painting from a listserve discussion. Possibly aprocryphal, > but not unlikely either. > > Don > > ___________________________________________________ > "I mean, everybody deserves the benefit of the doubt." > --Harvey Pekar > > Donald F. Larsson, Professor > English Department, Minnesota State University, Mankato > Email: [log in to unmask] > Note: I will be off-campus for the next 2-4 years as I work full- > time in St. Paul as President of the Inter Faculty Organization. If > you need to contact me in regard to the faculty contract or related > matters, my email address there is [log in to unmask] For local > matters, contact Mankato Faculty Association President Roger Severns > at [log in to unmask] > > ________________________________________ > From: Film and TV Studies Discussion List [[log in to unmask]] on > behalf of Frank, Michael [[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 6:15 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [SCREEN-L] a note regarding the request on negative > criticism on alfred hitchcock as an auteur > > Not to create a bone of contention, but personally I find myself > agreeing with Gloria. I don't mind having conversations with > undergrads to help spark ideas, but I never was one to "hang out" > with them, even electronically. The young man may not have any > dubious intentions, but he really should do his own homework. > > > > I recall a similar situation some years ago, in which a student sent > forth a fake call for papers on British SciFi to a certain listserv, > and then used the abstracts to help her defend her orals. There > never was a panel. > > > > As for my two cents, there was some criticism over auteur > Hitchcock's treatment of actress Kim Novak after her "illicit" > romance with Sammy Davis, Jr. became public. Despite being > considered the consummate pro, and having worked with Novak in > Vertigo (1958), Hitchcock banned her from his next project, From > Amongst the Dead. > > > > Now then Peter - you find the citation! > > ========================================== > > > > i'm sorry, but the two situations are not in the least similar . . . > one is an honest attempt to be directed to sources that the writer > plans to use honestly, the other is simply fraud . . . and to give > the asker information and then tease him with a "you find the > citation" is simply mean spirited . . . when we write an essay and > cite some obscure info we feel obliged to indicate where we found > it . . . i cannot imagine why the same decency would not apply here > > > > and none of this has anything whatsoever to do with "hanging out" > with one's students . . . you don't have to like socializing with > them to treat them with a modicum of decency > > ---- > Online resources for film/TV studies may be found at ScreenSite > http://www.ScreenSite.org > > ---- > For past messages, visit the Screen-L Archives: > http://bama.ua.edu/archives/screen-l.html ---- For past messages, visit the Screen-L Archives: http://bama.ua.edu/archives/screen-l.html