There are a couple of new media-oriented discussion groups.
Their announcements are down a ways in this message...
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There are 9 messages totalling 497 lines in this issue.
Topics of the week:
1. NEW: NATION-L - Discussion re Nation Magazine
2. ADMIN: Some messages duplicated on NEW-LIST
3. NEW: Devmedia - Media for Development and Democracy
4. NUREL-L - The Study of New Religious Movements
5. NEW: ndt-net - NonDestructive Test, Evaluation, Inspection
6. NEW: CELL-CHURCH - Cell based churches discussion group
7. NEW: kid.media - Kid Media List
8. NEW,CHANGE: kid.media - Kid Media List - URGENT UPDATE
9. NEW: folkdj-l For folk/bluegrass/Celtic DJs
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 17:23:39 CST
From: Marco Hernandez <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: NEW: NATION-L - Discussion re Nation Magazine
Nation-l on [log in to unmask] Nation Magazine Discussion List
The Nation-l list was formed in order to provide a forum for
the discussion of articles and issues as they appear in the
Nation Magazine. Nation-l is an open, unmoderated list.
To subscribe to Nation-l send e-mail to [log in to unmask]
in the body of the e-mail:
subscribe nation-l firstname lastname
For example: subscribe nation-l John Doe
Owner: Marco Hernandez <[log in to unmask]>
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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 07:57:29 CST
From: Marty Hoag <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: ADMIN: Some messages duplicated on NEW-LIST
I erred and accidentally sent out duplicate copies (in one case
maybe triplicate copies) of several NEW-LIST items last Friday
(11/26/93). There was a syntax error in the list subscribers. The
error was in a block of about 500 recipients and it is these 500
subscribers (of the over 5,000 on the list) which may have gotten
duplicated messages. As I remember there were around half a dozen
different announcements or searches which were affected. The last
item I reposted was titled
Subject: NEW: WIG-L - Women in German
I'm sorry about the extra traffic and confusion.
If any of you do get duplicated messages IN THE FUTURE be sure to
send me copies of the same item with the internal headers (such as
"Received:") intact. You can send these to [log in to unmask]
(nu021172@NDSUVM1) or to [log in to unmask] . Thank you.
Marty Hoag new-list moderator
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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 22:12:37 CST
From: Don Richardson <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: NEW: Devmedia - Media for Development and Democracy
[log in to unmask] Media for Development and Democracy
List Members: Participatory radio, video and TV practitioners working
for the democratisation of communication.
Organizations posting to the list include:
Videazimut - An international coalition, founded in 1990, that
brings together people from the world of independent and
alternative video and television from every continent.
Together its members act to promote the democratic practice of
communication. They aim to broaden the participation by
communities and movements from the South and North in sound
and image production.
AMARC - The World Association of Community Radio Broadcasters.
Supports community and alternative radio stations that
involve people in participatory communication processes.
Don Snowdon Centre for Development Support Communication -
Supports the practice of using communication tools
(especially small format video) in participatory action
research and participatory development. Located at Memorial
University, St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada.
To subscribe to Devmedia send an e-mail message to:
[log in to unmask]
In the text of the message type:
subscribe Devmedia yourfirstname yourlastname
DO NOT INCLUDE ANY OTHER TEXT OR SIGNATURES
When you receive a reply, please ignore the request to change your
password. This password is used in conjunction with an interactive
connection to the LISTSERV machine. This feature has not been
enabled.
Owner: Don Richardson [log in to unmask]
Assistant Professor, Department of Rural Extension Studies
University of Guelph, Guelph, Ontario, Canada.
Fax: 519-767-1510.
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Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 09:35:34 CST
From: Irving Hexham <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: NUREL-L - The Study of New Religious Movements
[log in to unmask]
This is to announce the start of a new list NUREL-L which is a
moderated academic discussion group devoted to the study of New
Religious Movments.
To subscribe send e-mail to [log in to unmask] with
the body containing the command
SUBSCRIBE NUREL-L your name
From: Irving Hexham [log in to unmask]
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Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 15:13:28 CST
From: "Ray Allis 865-3583 (206)" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: NEW: ndt-net - NonDestructive Test, Evaluation, Inspection
[log in to unmask] Non-destructive Test and Inspection
The ndt-net mail distribution list was established at The Boeing
Company to provide a forum for the discussion of nondestructive
inspection (NDI) in particular and its many related technologies in
general. Discussion topics are not limited to a specific industry
such as aerospace, but to any field where NDI is or should be used.
For the uninitiated, nondestructive inspection is:
the development and application of technical methods to examine
materials or components in ways that do not impair future
usefulness and serviceability in order to detect, locate, measure
and evaluate discontinuities, defects and other imperfections; to
assess integrity, properties and composition; and to measure
geometrical characters. (ASTM E1316-92, Standard Terminology for
Nondestructive Examinations).
As you delve further into the ongoing discussions you may see
nondestructive inspection referred to as NDI, NDT and/or NDE. These
all refer to the same general field of technology, the differences
being determined mostly by the using industry. The different
acronyms mean:
NDI - NonDestructive Inspection
NDT - NonDestructive Testing
NDE - NonDestructive Evaluation
In general, the field of NDI employs radiographic, ultrasonic,
magnetic particle, liquid penetrant, visual, thermal, acoustic,
differential pressure and electromagnetic methods to accomplish the
tasks defined above. All of them are fair game for discussion in
this forum.
To subscribe to ndt-net send an e-mail message to:
[log in to unmask]
In the Subject: line of the message type:
--------
listserv subscribe ndt-net yourfirstname yourlastname
The body of the message will be ignored.
Once you recieve acknowledgement that you are subscribed, e-mail to
the entire list of subscribers should be sent to:
[log in to unmask]
Administration/Owner: Ray Allis - Boeing Computer Services
[log in to unmask]
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 22:31:53 CST
From: Kenny Kon <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: NEW: CELL-CHURCH - Cell based churches discussion group
[log in to unmask]
Abilene Christian University runs a discussion group for anyone
interested in cell based churches. The discussions range from
planting cell based churches to moving from a program based church to
a cell based church.
To subscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with only one
line in your message:
SUBSCRIBE CELL-CHURCH
You should receive a welcome/introduction message.
Owner: Jon Reid [log in to unmask]
or Kenny Kon [log in to unmask]
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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 13:59:03 CST
From: Bill Pfeiffer <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: NEW: kid.media - Kid Media List
[log in to unmask] KID MEDIA DISCUSSION LIST
The Kid Media Mailing List is a list (started Nov 23 1993) dedicated
to the furtherment of communications between people interested in, or
involved in, the creation, production, distribution and/or
consumption of media who's primary target audience is children. For
the sake of inclusiveness, the list is defining 'children' and anyone
under the age of 18 years, although most of the media to which this
list is targeted would be aimed primarily at those under 12.
Since this is a very new endevour, the limits and actual scope of the
list are yet to be determined. But as a general rule, Kid Media is
open to any constructive traffic on the topic. We are counting on
the participants to bring the list to life, as it is being run as a
tool of communication and not a podium for one or two so-called
'experts'.
Some of the topics suggested for discussion are (but not limited
to)..
# Children's Public Television programs and their impact
# Commercial Children's Television and its impact
# The rising trend of "Children's Radio" Such as 'Radio AAHS" and how
that is impacting the overall Children's Media situation.
# Kid's Music and Musicians.
# Producing Children's media.
# Cartoons Today and Yesterday.
# Separating Fiction and Illusion from Reality in Kids Media.
# The role of computers and computer animation in Kids media.
# How Kids Media deals with Societal Issues like AIDS, Sexuality
Family problems, Abuse, Racism, Drugs, Self-Esteem, etc.
# How do Families view the role of Kids Media?
# How so-called 'adult' or mainstream media affects kids.
# The Selling of our Children.. Commercials aimed at selling
products to kids and to parents via the influence of their kids.
# Education via media.
# Kids movies and videos. How and why are they made?
# Contemporary re-makes of classic fairy tales (like Aladdin, etc).
# How media does (or does not) effect children and what is
being done in that arena?
# Current and future trends in the industry.
These are just some concepts off the top of my head and from those
sent in by interested parties. The scope and direction of this list
is still mostly un-formed and up to the participants to determine by
their posts.
The list is an unmoderated reflector-type where articles are resent
almost immediately upon being received at the reflector site.
However, the list is monitored, and although the direction has not
been cast in stone, we do want to make a couple of ground rules right
off the bat.
This list was originally designed to offer those involved in the
creation of kids media an opportunity to talk among themselves about
matters pertaining to their craft(s). Later it seemed appropriate to
not limit or restrict the membership to just kid media professionals,
but to open it to the public at large. None the less, it is our
intent to keep the list from becoming a flame-fest or a place to air
"I Hate Barney" types of messages, or other non-constructive traffic.
Obviously disagreements will occur and that is fine, but understand
that there is a fine line between disagreeing with a poster's opinion
and flaming the poster personally. Since we have media professionals
on the list already and hope to attract more, we do not wish to take
up bandwidth on personal holy-wars and irreconcilable arguments. In
short we would like to keep the brain to baloney ratio as high as we
can.
Those who insist on taking personal insults and flames to the list at
large, will be denied access. Please do not make this necessary. We
ask that those on the list conduct themselves in an intelligent
manner, even while disagreeing and arguing points of opinion.
Other than that, the podium is yours. We would like everyone on the
list to post a self-introduction so we can all become acquainted.
Many have included that in their subscribe message, but now that the
list is functional, why not post it? Tell everyone what you do and
why Children's media is of interest to you.
Also, spread the word. there is no reasonable limit to the number of
list members and the more the merrier. We all look forward to a
spirited and educational time here.
Here are the addresses for the kid media list. Please keep these
handy or assign them to aliases in elm or whatever mailer you use.
If you receive a number of mailinglists, ask me about filter programs
which can assign different mailboxes for different types of mail,
thereby keeping your main mailbox from getting too cluttered.
*** LIST ADDRESSES ***
* To Subscribe/Unsubscribe or get a help file -- Send to:
[log in to unmask] . You MUST put one of these
commands in the SUBJECT: field of your letter.
1) Subscribe
2) Unsubscribe
3) Help
* To send mail to the list -- [log in to unmask]
* To speak to the Maintainer (Me) contact:
Owner: William Pfeiffer [log in to unmask]
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If you are interested in a more generalized treatment of radio media,
join the AIRWAVES radio journal list, which I moderate. You may also
access AIRWAVES via Usenet newsgroup rec.radio.broadcasting. The
address to submit articles to the AIRWAVES list is
[log in to unmask] . The address for subscriptions is
[log in to unmask] .
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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 16:22:16 CST
From: Bill Pfeiffer <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: NEW,CHANGE: kid.media - Kid Media List - URGENT UPDATE
AN URGENT NOTE from the Kid.Media Owner:
Please change the listing.
I am getting flooded with subscribe requests going to the regular list
and NOT the request address.
... (some parts removed for brevity) ...
Bill
New-List Editor's Comment:
The list address is almost NEVER appropriate for subscription
requests. PLEASE use the posted subscription procedures. If those
fail contact the owner of the list. We have over 5,000 subscribers
so even a 1% failure rate adds up.
I didn't feel I could reformat this in the way that Bill wanted to
without changing the format from the standard but I've tried to
do it in a way to reduce some of the grief. Your help is appreciated.
Thank you! Marty Hoag new-list owner
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kid.media on [log in to unmask]
KID MEDIA DISCUSSION LIST
The Kid Media Mailing List is a list (started Nov 23 1993) dedicated
to the furtherment of communications between people interested in, or
involved in, the creation, production, distribution and/or
consumption of media who's primary target audience is children. For
the sake of inclusiveness, the list is defining 'children' and anyone
under the age of 18 years, although most of the media to which this
list is targeted would be aimed primarily at those under 12.
*** LIST ADDRESSES ***
* TO SUBSCRIBE/UNSUBSCRIBE or get a help file -- Send to:
[log in to unmask] .
-----------------
You MUST put one of these commands in the SUBJECT: field of your letter.
1) Subscribe
2) Unsubscribe
3) Help
* To send mail to the list -- [log in to unmask]
DO NOT send subscription requests to the list!
* To speak to the Maintainer (Me) contact:
Owner: William Pfeiffer [log in to unmask]
Since this is a very new endevour, the limits and actual scope of the
list are yet to be determined. But as a general rule, Kid Media is
open to any constructive traffic on the topic. We are counting on
the participants to bring the list to life, as it is being run as a
tool of communication and not a podium for one or two so-called
'experts'.
Some of the topics suggested for discussion are (but not limited
to)..
# Children's Public Television programs and their impact
# Commercial Children's Television and its impact
# The rising trend of "Children's Radio" Such as 'Radio AAHS" and how
that is impacting the overall Children's Media situation.
# Kid's Music and Musicians.
# Producing Children's media.
# Cartoons Today and Yesterday.
# Separating Fiction and Illusion from Reality in Kids Media.
# The role of computers and computer animation in Kids media.
# How Kids Media deals with Societal Issues like AIDS, Sexuality
Family problems, Abuse, Racism, Drugs, Self-Esteem, etc.
# How do Families view the role of Kids Media?
# How so-called 'adult' or mainstream media affects kids.
# The Selling of our Children.. Commercials aimed at selling
products to kids and to parents via the influence of their kids.
# Education via media.
# Kids movies and videos. How and why are they made?
# Contemporary re-makes of classic fairy tales (like Aladdin, etc).
# How media does (or does not) effect children and what is
being done in that arena?
# Current and future trends in the industry.
These are just some concepts off the top of my head and from those
sent in by interested parties. The scope and direction of this list
is still mostly un-formed and up to the participants to determine by
their posts.
The list is an unmoderated reflector-type where articles are resent
almost immediately upon being received at the reflector site.
However, the list is monitored, and although the direction has not
been cast in stone, we do want to make a couple of ground rules right
off the bat.
This list was originally designed to offer those involved in the
creation of kids media an opportunity to talk among themselves about
matters pertaining to their craft(s). Later it seemed appropriate to
not limit or restrict the membership to just kid media professionals,
but to open it to the public at large. None the less, it is our
intent to keep the list from becoming a flame-fest or a place to air
"I Hate Barney" types of messages, or other non-constructive traffic.
Obviously disagreements will occur and that is fine, but understand
that there is a fine line between disagreeing with a poster's opinion
and flaming the poster personally. Since we have media professionals
on the list already and hope to attract more, we do not wish to take
up bandwidth on personal holy-wars and irreconcilable arguments. In
short we would like to keep the brain to baloney ratio as high as we
can.
Those who insist on taking personal insults and flames to the list at
large, will be denied access. Please do not make this necessary. We
ask that those on the list conduct themselves in an intelligent
manner, even while disagreeing and arguing points of opinion.
Other than that, the podium is yours. We would like everyone on the
list to post a self-introduction so we can all become acquainted.
Many have included that in their subscribe message, but now that the
list is functional, why not post it? Tell everyone what you do and
why Children's media is of interest to you.
Also, spread the word. there is no reasonable limit to the number of
list members and the more the merrier. We all look forward to a
spirited and educational time here.
Here are the addresses for the kid media list. Please keep these
handy or assign them to aliases in elm or whatever mailer you use.
If you receive a number of mailinglists, ask me about filter programs
which can assign different mailboxes for different types of mail,
thereby keeping your main mailbox from getting too cluttered.
--------------------------
If you are interested in a more generalized treatment of radio media,
join the AIRWAVES radio journal list, which I moderate. You may also
access AIRWAVES via Usenet newsgroup rec.radio.broadcasting. The
address to submit articles to the AIRWAVES list is
[log in to unmask] . The address for subscriptions is
[log in to unmask] .
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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 16:25:25 CST
From: "Tina Hay @ Penn State" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: NEW: folkdj-l For folk/bluegrass/Celtic DJs
folkdj-l on [log in to unmask]
or [log in to unmask]
The folkdj-l list was formed to give hosts of folk, bluegrass, and
Celtic music programs a chance to talk with one another and share
ideas. Topics include fundraising, record company relations, listener
likes and dislikes, new music news, community outreach, and other
matters of concern to folk radio programmers. The list is not limited
to DJs, however -- anyone can join, including listeners, folk
performers, industry people, and others.
To subscribe to folkdj-l, send e-mail to LISTSERV@psuvm (BITNET) or
[log in to unmask] (Internet) with the following command in the
body of the e-mail:
SUBSCRIBE FOLKDJ-L yourfirstname yourlastname stationandcity
(The station and city information is optional.)
List owner: Tina Hay [log in to unmask]
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End of NEW-LIST Digest - 28 Nov 1993 to 5 Dec 1993
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