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"Shari L. Rosenblum" <[log in to unmask]>
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The film made this look like some kind of chicanery.  I don't see it  
that way.  Secondary sources are secondary sources.


On Nov 3, 2010, at 8:17 AM, Larsson, Donald F wrote:

> I have mixed feelings about the response to the student, but as a  
> cautionary example see the scene in THE SOCIAL NETWORK where  
> Zuckerberg knocks off an art history paper but accumulating comments  
> on a painting from a listserve discussion.  Possibly aprocryphal,  
> but not unlikely either.
>
> Don
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> Subject: Re: [SCREEN-L] a note regarding the request on negative  
> criticism on alfred hitchcock as an auteur
>
> Not to create a bone of contention, but personally I find myself  
> agreeing with Gloria. I don't mind having conversations with  
> undergrads to help spark ideas, but I never was one to "hang out"  
> with them, even electronically. The young man may not have any  
> dubious intentions, but he really should do his own homework.
>
>
>
> I recall a similar situation some years ago, in which a student sent  
> forth a fake call for papers on British SciFi to a certain listserv,  
> and then used the abstracts to help her defend her orals. There  
> never was a panel.
>
>
>
> As for my two cents, there was some criticism over auteur  
> Hitchcock's treatment of actress Kim Novak after her "illicit"  
> romance with Sammy Davis, Jr. became public. Despite being  
> considered the consummate pro, and having worked with Novak in  
> Vertigo (1958), Hitchcock banned her from his next project, From  
> Amongst the Dead.
>
>
>
> Now then Peter - you find the citation!
>
> ==========================================
>
>
>
> i'm sorry, but the two situations are not in the least similar . . .  
> one is an honest attempt to be directed to sources that the writer  
> plans to use honestly, the other is simply fraud  . . . and to give  
> the asker information and then tease him with a "you find the  
> citation" is simply mean spirited . . . when we write an essay and  
> cite some obscure info we feel obliged to indicate where we found  
> it . . . i cannot imagine why the same decency would not apply here
>
>
>
> and none of this has anything whatsoever to do with "hanging out"  
> with one's students . . . you don't have to like socializing with  
> them to treat them with a modicum of decency
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