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You can rip the DVD using a DVD-decripting tool (i.e. be a bit of a pirate).  That will give you some .VOB files.  Then you can convert this into .MPG files using Ciberlink's PowerEncoder MPEG-4.  If you convert a whole .VOB file, PowerEncoder will give you several mpg clips, but as far as I know, you cannot choose how they are divided.  So if you are lucky and they are cut just the way you need it, then you can just take them.  Otherwise, you can import them into a video-editing software v.g. Premiere, put them back together and then export as an .avi file the parts that you need.
I find the whole thing quite complicated, but I've done it and it worked.  I also believe there must be easier ways to get it done, but I only work with freeware or trial versions that I can download.
Feel free to e-mail me if I can help you in any way.

Maria Antonia Vélez
Bogota, Colombia.


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Asunto: SCREEN-L Digest - 5 Feb 2007 to 6 Feb 2007 (#2007-18)

There are 12 messages totalling 750 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Teaching Intro to Film & Film History
  2. SCREEN-L Digest - 2 Feb 2007 to 4 Feb 2007 (#2007-16)
  3. looking for (5)
  4. Importing DVD clips to PowerPoint etc. (5)

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Date:    Tue, 6 Feb 2007 13:22:06 +1300
From:    Paul Ramaeker <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Teaching Intro to Film & Film History

> I am slated to teach Introduction to Film and Film History courses next
> year.  I
> want to use the Bordwell and Thompson book, Film Art, for the first
> course and the B&T book,
> Film History, for the second.  However, these books seem so
> comprehensive that I am concerned
> about how to use class time in a way that will not seem redundant to
> the students.

Well, first off, don't assume that your students will actually do the
reading.  Second, there are *some* gaps in the books- for example, Film
Art has nothing to say about authorship, and Film History leaves out a lot
of detail about film industries which can be interesting (check out
Balio's The American Film Industry to fill in a few gaps on Hollywood, for
instance).

I use a lot of class time focusing in on certain issues in the reading I
want to highlight (including stuff in the course reader), bringing in any
outside material or issues, talking about the films themselves (most
especially in the case of that week's reading), and, by far most
importantly:  showing a lot of clips.  Students love clips, of course, but
they are also crucial material for the pedagogy of the course, and the
books will never substitute for that.  As long as copyright laws are the
way they are right now, there won't be a substitute for the lecturer
presenting loads of clips.

PBR

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Date:    Tue, 6 Feb 2007 11:00:01 +1000
From:    lisa bode <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: SCREEN-L Digest - 2 Feb 2007 to 4 Feb 2007 (#2007-16)

G'day,

Well I remember learning first year Film studies from B+T. The classes were
organised around seeing how well the ideas from the book could be applied to
different films, and a question of were there films that resisted the B+T
treatment. We spent many hours watching clips chosen by the teacher, taking
notes by ourselves using the different tools from the book to analyse how
say, editing, sound, mise en scene etc made meaning in the film, and then
breaking into groiups to combine ideas for 15 minutes before each group
reported back to the class as a whole.

Lisa

On 2/5/07, SCREEN-L automatic digest system <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Topics of the day:
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>   1. Teaching Intro to Film & Film History
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> Date:    Sun, 4 Feb 2007 09:35:27 -0600
> From:    Bartlett <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Teaching Intro to Film & Film History
>
> I am slated to teach Introduction to Film and Film History courses next
> year.  I
> want to use the Bordwell and Thompson book, Film Art, for the first course
> and the B&T book,
> Film History, for the second.  However, these books seem so comprehensive
> that I am concerned
> about how to use class time in a way that will not seem redundant to the
> students.
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions as to effective and interesting ways to
> approach teaching Intro to Film and Film History courses using these
> texts.
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Date:    Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:00:57 -0800
From:    godard <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: looking for

   *I Was a Communist for the FBI* (1951) and *My Son John.*   IMDB does not
list them as available for purchase.
   Thank you,

   Gloria Monti
-- 
gloria monti, ph.d.
fullerton, CA
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Date:    Tue, 6 Feb 2007 11:08:19 -0500
From:    Jessica Rosner <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: looking for

I think I WAS A COMMUNIST may have been released in the EARLIEST days of VHS
on the old CBS/KEY label ( also known fyi as THE WOMAN ON PIER 13)
MY SON JOHN  has never been released
They do show up on cable.


On 2/4/07 10:00 PM, "godard" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>    *I Was a Communist for the FBI* (1951) and *My Son John.*   IMDB does not
> list them as available for purchase.
>    Thank you,
> 
>    Gloria Monti



Proud Resident of a BLUE STATE
 
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Kino International
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Date:    Tue, 6 Feb 2007 11:19:31 -0500
From:    Eric Schaefer <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: looking for

Try emailing the folks at the Danger and Despair Knitting Circle in  
San Francisco.  The website is http://www.noirfilm.com/.

They will likely have some leads.

Eric

Eric Schaefer, Ph.D.
Associate Professor and Associate Chair
Department of Visual and Media Arts
Emerson College
120 Boylston Street
Boston, MA   02116
(617) 824-8861


On Feb 4, 2007, at 10:00 PM, godard wrote:

>   *I Was a Communist for the FBI* (1951) and *My Son John.*   IMDB  
> does not
> list them as available for purchase.
>   Thank you,
>
>   Gloria Monti
> -- 
> gloria monti, ph.d.
> fullerton, CA
> [log in to unmask]
>
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> http://www.ScreenSite.org

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Date:    Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:29:13 -0600
From:    =?iso-8859-1?Q?Barry_Langford?= <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Importing DVD clips to PowerPoint etc.

A couple of years back there was a useful exchange about how best 
*technically* (i.e., copyright concerns aside) to rip clips from DVDs for 
incorporation into lectures using Powerpoint etc. Lazily I've never got 
round to trying this myself but with a paper due at SCMS in Chicago in 
March and likely problems over playback of Region 2 DVDs etc. (to say 
nothing of wanting to minimise time spent loading discs, enduring studio 
idents, browsing menus, etc., in the middle of a 20-minute talk), it's 
clearly time for me to bite the bullet.

The earlier discussion (headed "a basic question" if anyone's interested) 
directed users to resources such as doom9.org etc. Having looked at this 
it was to me at least (as a technical dunce) dismayingly tech-savvy (the 
first recommendation under "learning the basics" was to build your own PC 
from components and install Windows from scratch! yeah right...). So I was 
wondering if the intervening years have made this task at all easier. Is 
there a user-friendly programme for simply copying a few minutes of a 
commercial DVD to one's hard drive, whether shareware or for purchase? I 
would imagine almost everyone bar me has been cheerfully doing this for 
years so I'm happy to humbly accept whatever guidance I'm given!

Many thanks

Barry

Dr Barry Langford
Senior Lecturer in Film Studies
Department of Media Arts
Royal Holloway, University of London
Egham, Surrey TW20 0EX

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Date:    Tue, 6 Feb 2007 12:19:30 -0500
From:    kenneth harrow <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Importing DVD clips to PowerPoint etc.

you can capture frames and save them using intervideo windvd. it 
takes no expertise
ken harrow

At 11:29 AM 2/6/2007, you wrote:
>A couple of years back there was a useful exchange about how best
>*technically* (i.e., copyright concerns aside) to rip clips from DVDs for
>incorporation into lectures using Powerpoint etc. Lazily I've never got
>round to trying this myself but with a paper due at SCMS in Chicago in
>March and likely problems over playback of Region 2 DVDs etc. (to say
>nothing of wanting to minimise time spent loading discs, enduring studio
>idents, browsing menus, etc., in the middle of a 20-minute talk), it's
>clearly time for me to bite the bullet.
>
>The earlier discussion (headed "a basic question" if anyone's interested)
>directed users to resources such as doom9.org etc. Having looked at this
>it was to me at least (as a technical dunce) dismayingly tech-savvy (the
>first recommendation under "learning the basics" was to build your own PC
>from components and install Windows from scratch! yeah right...). So I was
>wondering if the intervening years have made this task at all easier. Is
>there a user-friendly programme for simply copying a few minutes of a
>commercial DVD to one's hard drive, whether shareware or for purchase? I
>would imagine almost everyone bar me has been cheerfully doing this for
>years so I'm happy to humbly accept whatever guidance I'm given!
>
>Many thanks
>
>Barry
>
>Dr Barry Langford
>Senior Lecturer in Film Studies
>Department of Media Arts
>Royal Holloway, University of London
>Egham, Surrey TW20 0EX
>
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Date:    Tue, 6 Feb 2007 12:07:42 -0600
From:    Lou Thompson <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Importing DVD clips to PowerPoint etc.

I think Barry was asking how to capture clips (moving) rather than =
stills.  WINDVD has a copy version but I haven't tried it yet.  I hope =
to learn from the responses to Barry's question here. =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: kenneth harrow=20
  To: [log in to unmask]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:19 AM
  Subject: Re: [SCREEN-L] Importing DVD clips to PowerPoint etc.


  you can capture frames and save them using intervideo windvd. it=20
  takes no expertise
  ken harrow

  At 11:29 AM 2/6/2007, you wrote:
  >A couple of years back there was a useful exchange about how best
  >*technically* (i.e., copyright concerns aside) to rip clips from DVDs =
for
  >incorporation into lectures using Powerpoint etc. Lazily I've never =
got
  >round to trying this myself but with a paper due at SCMS in Chicago =
in
  >March and likely problems over playback of Region 2 DVDs etc. (to say
  >nothing of wanting to minimise time spent loading discs, enduring =
studio
  >idents, browsing menus, etc., in the middle of a 20-minute talk), =
it's
  >clearly time for me to bite the bullet.
  >
  >The earlier discussion (headed "a basic question" if anyone's =
interested)
  >directed users to resources such as doom9.org etc. Having looked at =
this
  >it was to me at least (as a technical dunce) dismayingly tech-savvy =
(the
  >first recommendation under "learning the basics" was to build your =
own PC
  >from components and install Windows from scratch! yeah right...). So =
I was
  >wondering if the intervening years have made this task at all easier. =
Is
  >there a user-friendly programme for simply copying a few minutes of a
  >commercial DVD to one's hard drive, whether shareware or for =
purchase? I
  >would imagine almost everyone bar me has been cheerfully doing this =
for
  >years so I'm happy to humbly accept whatever guidance I'm given!
  >
  >Many thanks
  >
  >Barry
  >
  >Dr Barry Langford
  >Senior Lecturer in Film Studies
  >Department of Media Arts
  >Royal Holloway, University of London
  >Egham, Surrey TW20 0EX
  >
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  Michigan State University
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  fax 353 3755=20

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Date:    Tue, 6 Feb 2007 13:30:05 -0500
From:    Darrell Newton <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Importing DVD clips to PowerPoint etc.

I personally think that best way to use clips is to simply capture
portions of VHS tape through a Pinnacle or similar system; trim them and
save them as  .mpeg or .avi files. These can then be inserted into .ppt
at will. Jeremy Butler has a great tutorial available on this, I
believe. 

You can also place these same files on DVD through a program like DVD
it, allowing for multiple access to various files. 

The last time I checked, it was still rather difficult to circumvent
the copyright restrictions inherent with DVDs these days. 

Darrell M. Newton, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor,
The Department of Communication and Theater Arts
Salisbury University
269 Fulton Hall
Salisbury, MD 21801
(410) 677-5060 Office
(410) 543-6229 Department

http://faculty.salisbury.edu/~dmnewton/


>>> [log in to unmask] 02/06/07 1:07 PM >>>
I think Barry was asking how to capture clips (moving) rather than
stills.  WINDVD has a copy version but I haven't tried it yet.  I hope
to learn from the responses to Barry's question here.  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: kenneth harrow 
  To: [log in to unmask] 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:19 AM
  Subject: Re: [SCREEN-L] Importing DVD clips to PowerPoint etc.


  you can capture frames and save them using intervideo windvd. it 
  takes no expertise
  ken harrow

  At 11:29 AM 2/6/2007, you wrote:
  >A couple of years back there was a useful exchange about how best
  >*technically* (i.e., copyright concerns aside) to rip clips from
DVDs for
  >incorporation into lectures using Powerpoint etc. Lazily I've never
got
  >round to trying this myself but with a paper due at SCMS in Chicago
in
  >March and likely problems over playback of Region 2 DVDs etc. (to
say
  >nothing of wanting to minimise time spent loading discs, enduring
studio
  >idents, browsing menus, etc., in the middle of a 20-minute talk),
it's
  >clearly time for me to bite the bullet.
  >
  >The earlier discussion (headed "a basic question" if anyone's
interested)
  >directed users to resources such as doom9.org etc. Having looked at
this
  >it was to me at least (as a technical dunce) dismayingly tech-savvy
(the
  >first recommendation under "learning the basics" was to build your
own PC
  >from components and install Windows from scratch! yeah right...). So
I was
  >wondering if the intervening years have made this task at all
easier. Is
  >there a user-friendly programme for simply copying a few minutes of
a
  >commercial DVD to one's hard drive, whether shareware or for
purchase? I
  >would imagine almost everyone bar me has been cheerfully doing this
for
  >years so I'm happy to humbly accept whatever guidance I'm given!
  >
  >Many thanks
  >
  >Barry
  >
  >Dr Barry Langford
  >Senior Lecturer in Film Studies
  >Department of Media Arts
  >Royal Holloway, University of London
  >Egham, Surrey TW20 0EX
  >
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Date:    Tue, 6 Feb 2007 13:16:05 -0600
From:    Robert Keser <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: looking for

Darker Image Video has both of these, on VHS as well as DVD, at
reasonable prices. You can contact them at [log in to unmask]

--Robert Keser
Fine Arts: Film
National-Louis University
Chicago

-----Original Message-----
From: Film and TV Studies Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of godard
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 9:01 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [SCREEN-L] looking for

   *I Was a Communist for the FBI* (1951) and *My Son John.*   IMDB does
not
list them as available for purchase.
   Thank you,

   Gloria Monti
-- 
gloria monti, ph.d.
fullerton, CA
[log in to unmask]

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Date:    Tue, 6 Feb 2007 15:20:20 -0500
From:    "Lane, Christina" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: looking for

I own a copy of My Son John.  I can send you a DVD copy if you send me =
your address.
Christina Lane

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From: Film and TV Studies Discussion List on behalf of godard
Sent: Sun 2/4/2007 10:00 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [SCREEN-L] looking for



   *I Was a Communist for the FBI* (1951) and *My Son John.*   IMDB does =
not
list them as available for purchase.
   Thank you,

   Gloria Monti
--
gloria monti, ph.d.
fullerton, CA
[log in to unmask]

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Date:    Tue, 6 Feb 2007 23:19:41 -0600
From:    Lou Thompson <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Importing DVD clips to PowerPoint etc.

It's obviously possible to copy short clips from DVDs--I've seen many =
people use these clips in presentations.  It just seems that no one is =
willing to share how it is done. =20

And it is legal now for the purposes of scholarship. =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Darrell Newton=20
  To: [log in to unmask]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 12:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [SCREEN-L] Importing DVD clips to PowerPoint etc.


  I personally think that best way to use clips is to simply capture
  portions of VHS tape through a Pinnacle or similar system; trim them =
and
  save them as  .mpeg or .avi files. These can then be inserted into =
.ppt
  at will. Jeremy Butler has a great tutorial available on this, I
  believe.=20

  You can also place these same files on DVD through a program like DVD
  it, allowing for multiple access to various files.=20

  The last time I checked, it was still rather difficult to circumvent
  the copyright restrictions inherent with DVDs these days.=20

  Darrell M. Newton, Ph.D.
  Assistant Professor,
  The Department of Communication and Theater Arts
  Salisbury University
  269 Fulton Hall
  Salisbury, MD 21801
  (410) 677-5060 Office
  (410) 543-6229 Department

  http://faculty.salisbury.edu/~dmnewton/


  >>> [log in to unmask] 02/06/07 1:07 PM >>>
  I think Barry was asking how to capture clips (moving) rather than
  stills.  WINDVD has a copy version but I haven't tried it yet.  I hope
  to learn from the responses to Barry's question here. =20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: kenneth harrow=20
    To: [log in to unmask]
    Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:19 AM
    Subject: Re: [SCREEN-L] Importing DVD clips to PowerPoint etc.


    you can capture frames and save them using intervideo windvd. it=20
    takes no expertise
    ken harrow

    At 11:29 AM 2/6/2007, you wrote:
    >A couple of years back there was a useful exchange about how best
    >*technically* (i.e., copyright concerns aside) to rip clips from
  DVDs for
    >incorporation into lectures using Powerpoint etc. Lazily I've never
  got
    >round to trying this myself but with a paper due at SCMS in Chicago
  in
    >March and likely problems over playback of Region 2 DVDs etc. (to
  say
    >nothing of wanting to minimise time spent loading discs, enduring
  studio
    >idents, browsing menus, etc., in the middle of a 20-minute talk),
  it's
    >clearly time for me to bite the bullet.
    >
    >The earlier discussion (headed "a basic question" if anyone's
  interested)
    >directed users to resources such as doom9.org etc. Having looked at
  this
    >it was to me at least (as a technical dunce) dismayingly tech-savvy
  (the
    >first recommendation under "learning the basics" was to build your
  own PC
    >from components and install Windows from scratch! yeah right...). =
So
  I was
    >wondering if the intervening years have made this task at all
  easier. Is
    >there a user-friendly programme for simply copying a few minutes of
  a
    >commercial DVD to one's hard drive, whether shareware or for
  purchase? I
    >would imagine almost everyone bar me has been cheerfully doing this
  for
    >years so I'm happy to humbly accept whatever guidance I'm given!
    >
    >Many thanks
    >
    >Barry
    >
    >Dr Barry Langford
    >Senior Lecturer in Film Studies
    >Department of Media Arts
    >Royal Holloway, University of London
    >Egham, Surrey TW20 0EX
    >
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